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hgautam
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On 2008-03-11 05:07:31, Prom1 wrote:
On 2008-03-11 00:28:02, PeterKay wrote:
they seem to stick to the same designs usually!
not the best fan myself.
Although I'm not a fan of Samsung myself; the very SAME thing can be said of SE phones - or Motorola phones or any other manufacturer.
Case in point: K750i basic design followed suit to the K850i right down to volume buttons, circular earpiece holes, location of camera button & power button. but the shape of the phone, design queues if you will are blatantly the same.
How else would we love our SE phones, hmmM?!!
You don't make any sense dude... Design is not only about where buttons are placed, it's about good looks with functionality...
And why would SE put the SAME BUTTON at different places in all of their phones??? would that make any sense??? No...
And please, SE is the only one who comes with the most different ans new designs... Many Nokia's look almost the same, same goes for Samsung, and there are many others too... | |
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aksd
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@gautam
Did you know that "ergonimics" play a very important role in the meaning of the word "design". And ergonimics basically is the placememnt of keys etc.. for ease of use. Therfore if the keys are in the same place it means that the design is similar from an ergonomics stand point. And SE do have a repetitive style in design, the K800/K810/K790 is an evolution(not a revolution) of the K750i design. Anybody whose not blind can see that. All their candybars barring the K850 look similar. Nobody is saying this is wrong, every phone manufacturer has its differentiating style, but to say that SE has the best design department and all their models look different is a laugh.
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of course all companies produce similar looking phones, thats a given..... theres only so many designs one can come up with, you dont want to go too 'extreme/out there'....
i just think moto/samsung do it the most.............
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Brightspark
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samsung can always be relied upon to make a good looking and stylish phone (n most cases), in my eyes.
On 2008-03-11 08:41:07, >500 wrote:
of course all companies produce similar looking phones, thats a given..... theres only so many designs one can come up with, you dont want to go too 'extreme/out there'....
i just think moto/samsung do it the most.............
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SE do it the most. the SE phone range are almost entirely made up of those boring candybars where about 90% of them look like the t610 or k750i. there's only really the shape of the buttons and a few very minor costmetic changes that are ever made between models.
nokia seem to have the most variation between phones of their range, then moto, then samsung, then SE. although moto have gone far too far with the RAZR line, if you have a look at the entire range of moto and all the manufacturers, you will see that from most varied to least varied goes in the following order:
nokia > moto > samsung > SE.
if there was any plus side for SE design, one could say that sony ericssons are by far the easiest to instantly recognise. i wonder why.
And please, SE is the only one who comes with the most different ans new designs... Many Nokia's look almost the same, same goes for Samsung, and there are many others too...
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thats what the inhabitants of Alpha Centauri believe, but they're on a different planet.
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On 2008-03-11 14:39:43, Brightspark wrote:
samsung can always be relied upon to make a good looking and stylish phone (n most cases), in my eyes.
On 2008-03-11 08:41:07, >500 wrote:
of course all companies produce similar looking phones, thats a given..... theres only so many designs one can come up with, you dont want to go too 'extreme/out there'....
i just think moto/samsung do it the most.............
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SE do it the most. the SE phone range are almost entirely made up of those boring candybars where about 90% of them look like the t610 or k750i. there's only really the shape of the buttons and a few very minor costmetic changes that are ever made between models.
nokia seem to have the most variation between phones of their range, then moto, then samsung, then SE. although moto have gone far too far with the RAZR line, if you have a look at the entire range of moto and all the manufacturers, you will see that from most varied to least varied goes in the following order:
nokia > moto > samsung > SE.
Oh God, that has got to be one of the most unrealistic statements I've read in a while.
Sony Ericsson does THE best designs. Their phones have the most varied designs of all manufacturers. What do I mean? Well, they are willing to experiment with all kinds of button layouts, shapes, sizes; many different colours (unlike those monotone black/silver handsets from other manufacturers), design elements, camera layouts, light effects, software design and form factors.
Also, of course there HAS to be some kind of button layout consistency throughout their portfolio. That way one could easily recognise an SE phone. Besides, the software platform demands it.
As you've probably understoood by now, I disagree with you wholeheartedly. |
Brightspark
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"That way one could easily recognise an SE phone."
so you've just agreed with me, and this is the only part of your post which has any validity.
buy yourself a pair of glasses if you think that SEs phone range is the most varied |
NightBlade
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On 2008-03-11 15:30:23, Brightspark wrote:
"That way one could easily recognise an SE phone."
so you've just agreed with me, and this is the only part of your post which has any validity.
buy yourself a pair of glasses if you think that SEs phone range is the most varied
You've missed my point. |
Brightspark
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i've understood your point perfectly. if you can more readily recognise an SE, that equates to them having more in common with each other than other manufacturers.
being able to immediately recognise a particular brand is not possible in 90-100% of cases with other manufactures, as it is with SE.
what you will notice with SEs is that there is only very minor changes between phones - they may change the shape of the buttons which distinguishes it from another SE looking almost exactly the same. there is rarely, if ever, a case with SE where the whole phone is different to anything that went before so that it looks unique from anything that went before. the sum total of differences between any new SE release and any of the ones prior to that amounts to 1 or 2 minor cosmetic changes (eg a change of button shape, and nothing more. a repositioning of 2 of the buttons, and nothing more. a change of colour, and nothing more. etc). the basic dimensions and layout remaining the same.
i can't believe that you actually believe that SE have the most variation in their design.
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NightBlade
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Right, so tell me how does any other manufacturer do a better job at design variety?
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Brightspark
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what sort of answer are you expecting? |
NightBlade
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I expect you to give me examples. |
Brightspark
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as you wish. take the prism phones from nokia.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_7900_crystal_prism-2225.php
show me a previous nokia phone that looked similar to it, mentioning the aspects of them which are common which would make it instantly recognisable as a nokia? for example, is there anything about it where you could cite at least 10 other models that have that exact same appearance that screams out "nokia"?
then do the same for the following:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_8800_sapphire_arte-2176.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n96-2253.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6650_t_mobile-2311.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n76-1822.php
i could go on and on,......
now it's your turn. show me 5 sony ericssons that have no resemblance to any other SE in such a way as to make it difficult to recognise it as an SE and which has totally different dimensions AND key layout AND everything else etc? |
shanespencer
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This thread's getting good 
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NightBlade
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Although I disagree with you about the N96, here are my picks:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/k810i?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]ones/overview/w380?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/w350i?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/r306i?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/z770i?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/w850i?cc=gb&lc=en
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]nes/overview/k850i?cc=gb&lc=en
And just about every other SE phone, as they all look very different to me.
Maybe you're confused by the fact that, say, the design of Walkman phones follow a certain "walkman style". Or the Cyber-shots - they do, too.
IMO, SE's designers are doing a fantastic job at creating new handset designs, while stilll following the style of the respective (sub-) brand. |
aksd
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I have no clue why its so upsetting to some people on this forum if you say that SE designs are repetitive. It IS repetitive, so are other phone manufacturers designs. WIthout sticking to one line of design styling the manufacturer looses its identity as well has lots more work to do in R&D if every phone is going to be a revolution rather than an evolution.
Lets do a quick analysis of the main design styles followed by Manufacturers.
1. Nokia: Their N Series have recently taken a rather "European" line imo, you can see the similarity in all their N Series products from the key shapes to their keypads and their lines. E-Series follow a similar patter, when you look at the phone you know its E-Series or N-Series. This is a good thing. So do their Prism series etc..
2. Samsung: Their metal series follow one line of design and their lower ends another.
3. Motorola: Their RAZR type design of course, they started the whole thing of evolutionary design, I dont care who wants to disaggree with me on this, its true, pure and simple.
4. SE, theyve got their candybars following one design philosophy based on the K750/T610, their clamshells a bit different, but you know they're SE once you see them. Mind you theres nothing evolutionary in each passing phone, you know that things have been carried over. When I mean evolutionary I mean look at the iPhone thats one heck of a design, SE have'nt come close to that, nor have other manufacturers.
5. HTC: They've got their touch line up, you know a touch is a touch when you see it. And their other TyTn2 model which is an evolution on the TyTn, you know they're HTC LOL!.
Imagine if a manufacturer did'nt have an identity, would be extremely stupid imo.
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