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Iceduck
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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From: Denmark
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Just because that one pound is worth more numerically than a euro doesn't means it's stronger. It's pretty basic to know that.
I too agree that the euro will replace national currencies in ALL EU countries, even the UK. Since the Danes voted no to the euro the yes-side has grown dramatically. Currently 60-70% of the population is in favor of replacing the krone with the euro, and I think that's great. We will have a new referendum in a couple of years.
I'm against a Turkish membership of the EU due to many reasons. And I think the Americans should stay out of internal European politics. Chris Patten said it best: "It's very generous of America to offer Turkey membership of the EU, but America is not an EU-member yet" 
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Cytech
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
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say no to Euro (EMU) and EU! 
next year the Swedish people will say what they think about joining the EMU... can be a close one... some surveys say that Sweden will be joining EMU and others say the opposite....
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haki
Joined: May 14, 2002
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From: The real MACEDONIA in GREECE
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I am glad that all these new wonderful countries will soon be full members of the EU, including Greece's sibling country of Cyprus which will hopefully be able to be a member as a whole entity including the Turkish-Cypriot community. Iceduck, you are so right about the exchange rate between the GBP and the Euro, but I disagree about the US interference. They are promoting their interests skilfully; its the EU that acts too passively as if it were powerless at the mercy of a superpower.
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amagab
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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cytech> joining EU was a close call too but fortunately the people woke up on the day of election and voted Sweden into EU - the same will happen on the day the Swedish people vote for EMU. The majority of Swedish people are slaved to the Goverment and will vote in favor of EMU.
haki> I agree Europe needs to be stronger and less passive on the global arena. It is sad to see the European economies being so dependent on everything that comes out of Wall Street. Hopefully, adding these ten new nations will strengthen Europe internally and externally. |
amagab
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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Even though this is a SE mobile forum I am glad we got ourselves a small political discussion here  Especially when so many members are from all over Europe. |
amagab
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Iceduck> maybe you would like to share with us why Turkey shouldn't have the opportunity to join EU!? |
Iceduck
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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Amagab: As I said, there are many reasons. If I were to support a Turkish membership of the EU they would have to change dramatically before 2004 - that won't happen. Turkish membership is AT LEAST 20-30 years out in the future, and by that time we may very well have an European federation. They have to change a lot of f**ked up things in their society, like the humiliation of the Kurds.
Turkey is big, so big in fact that IF it was an EU-member it would hold 1/4 of the entire EU population. So a culturally very different country would have imense power in the Parliament. That's dangerous for the rest of Europe. We may talk different languages, but generally we share the same basic view on life and democracy.
Another reason is geographical, Turkey is not European. One little tiny bit of the country is, but that doesn't make it a European country as a whole.
My solution would be to make some trading agreements with Turkey, but not let them join the EMU (euro), at least until they are on the same economic level as the new applicant countries (and new members).
I have other reasons too, but I'm too tired to write more
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sylvester
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
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From: Athens ,Greece
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Beacause Turkey isn't a European country my friend,so simple.Turkey has a completely different culture from all EU states and finaly has major economic and political probs such as respect of human rights .
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woutervg
Joined: Nov 03, 2002
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About the euro, when I go to London, will the euro be widely accepted there, and will I be able to pay in euro's in pubs over there? EU RULES!
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Yomans
Joined: Aug 05, 2002
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From: Latvia , Riga
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bart
Joined: Feb 03, 2002
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From: Flanders
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i don't think turkey will join in 2004. and i'm glad that we now have 10 more country's in the EU. and i hope one day all of EU will use this symbol .
does anybody know if the 10 new country's will have there own euros? it would be great for some collecters.
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Black Cat
Joined: Oct 21, 2002
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From: Loughborough UK
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well, this little part of the uk can't wait to embrace the euro! what's all the fuss with having the queens head on the currency anyway? she's a leech.
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Bjerkebanen
Joined: Feb 26, 2002
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From: El culo del mundo! OSLO NORUEG
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To bad norway is not on the Joining list. Norway is the last Sovjet state!
Does anyone know if the new EU countrys will automaticly join the Schengen agreement?
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bravofly
Joined: Nov 21, 2002
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From: Estonia
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@bart: I think Estonia will have itīs own money for a few more years. Itīs the same here as in UK: we are so proud about doing things our own way, itīs going to take time to ensure estonians that nothing bad will come with the euro. Still, the prices may go up a little...
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bart
Joined: Feb 03, 2002
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From: Flanders
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i think is very sad that norway isnt part of the EU. what is the Schengen agreement? |
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