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aminoff
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Posted: 2007-06-15 08:32
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Update from my previous post:
It seems it will be running UIQ 3.0 and have the SIP-client and QuickOffice as well:
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]0_uiq3walkman_announcement.jsp

Hmm... Now the P1i does not seem to be such a hot offer after all.. The querty keyboard is nice but not essential..

arch6
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Posted: 2007-06-15 08:44
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@aminoff:
Yay!!!
Now the W960i definitely seems like the way to go.
Although I hope that they dont skimp out and just give us the reader version and not the reader/writer version. (Do SE normally bundle DocsToGo?)
gauravsali
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Posted: 2007-06-15 08:52
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w960 doesnt have wi-fi!
anonymuser
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Posted: 2007-06-15 08:54
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Yes it does!
Mizzle
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Posted: 2007-06-15 09:14
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It's running UIQ 3.1, and no, don't bundle with Docs2Go. That's Palm
eroG
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Posted: 2007-06-15 10:40
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s*** I am going to buy the w960:(
artesea
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Posted: 2007-06-15 10:47
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People keep saying it run's UIQ3.1 but every SE page I've seen says 3.0.
The specs sheet seem to imply Word editing, just not viewing, and finally I've seen something saying 128mb RAM.
Now as neither the P1 or the W960 have a QWERTY keyboard my P990 won't be upgraded yet, but if I was to get one of them the W960 looks so much better.
leerichards
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Posted: 2007-06-15 11:05
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Still not sure which one to go for. Not really interested in the music capabilities of the W960i, as I've got my iPod docked in my car and I don't really listen to music 'on the go'. My main requirements for my next phone were: bigger screen, WiFi and a camera at least as good as my K800i. These devices seem to be the only two that fit that brief. Guess it will come down to either price, which is delivered first, or how they both feel in the hand. On looks alone, I think I prefer the W960i. Which will be the more expensive device in everyone's opinion?

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Posted: 2007-06-15 11:08
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On 2007-06-15 10:47:13, artesea wrote:
People keep saying it run's UIQ3.1 but every SE page I've seen says 3.0.


The developer page for the W960i and P1i both state :

Symbian OS v9.1
UIQ 3.0
Native hardware accelerated 3D graphics with Open GL ES support
scouser_75
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Posted: 2007-06-15 11:32
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Folks, I'm a touch confused here...

If the W960i has pretty much the same spec as the P1i - only the lack of qwerty keypad BUT with Walkman function would this not make the W960i SE's flagship model and not the P1i?

I'm not too IT literate - all this UIQ's and 3.0's/3.1's stuff confuses the hell out of me. I've tried. Really I have to try to understand what it all means - but just haven't been successfull. So if the P1i is the flagship model soley on the basis of all this stuff, then sorry for being ignorant to some of the posts made in this thread. I did read 'em - just didn't/couldn't understand 'em
Jimster71
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Posted: 2007-06-15 17:33
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I'd put the P1 and W960 on a par with each other, depending on what you are after.

The W960 has a better music player and large, fixed storage, standard keypad.

The P1 has quickoffice, business card reader, a card slot and qwerty keyboard.


scouser_75
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Posted: 2007-06-15 20:12
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Jimster, I'm sure I read in a few places that W960 also comes with Office Suite. If this is true then my mind is made up

Only problem is that Im currently using an N95 and I'm desperate to get rid of it (well currently the phones gone back to Nokia for the 3rd time for replacement). I have a sneeky feeling W960i aint gonna be out till Xmas time

If anyone wants a brandspanking new N95 in exchange for a P1i give me a shout in a weeks time when hopefully Nokia will have sent me a fully functioning N95!!!
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Posted: 2007-10-06 12:01
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Hi all, even I am considering to buy P1i, so I did a lot of research and found that one of the diff betwn W960 n P1i is Voice Dial, P1i has it! Thts if u r an avid user of BT as i am, it helps a lot while driving... n thts a diffrence.
Nipsen
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Posted: 2007-10-06 14:48
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I can't imagine the w960 doesn't have voice- dialling, really..

btw, on the uiq3, 3.1, etc. If anyone wondered, it's not that complicated. SE and Nokia and some others run their smartphones on Symbian OS. An operating system that favours stability and power- consumption, and so on. So, typically it doesn't run passive "background" apps that catch events in the same way as a .. typical OS designed for a desktop, for instance. And doesn't have billions of routines running while you're not doing something, but instead when you're doing the task. Another example is the file- system, and how it has more overhead than you'd perhaps expect, because it can't depend on things running indexes in the background. It has to run once, so no unexpected overhead turns up. The current symbian version is ver. 9. 9.1 had some tweaks and new core functionality. But what we have here is core functionality of an OS, like providing links to units and ways to abstract hardware, an UI framework, and so on.

On top of that core you have a User Interface implementation, such as UIQ or S60, etc. But that user interface extends functions in the core OS, and use them in particular ways - it does not simply reference them. And therefore any development on these units will have to be geared towards the platform (UIQ or S60), instead of just the OS. Which then means you're dependent on the public APIs (application program interfaces), when you're supposed to access the OS functions.

Which is why many prefer S60, since it has a wider variety of apis and is geared more towards accessing OS functions. UIQ is somewhat different, and has put in place several obstacles for developers in that sense. Not many, really.. but anyway it's a possibility here to use UIQ and the platform to guarantee certain functionality when running on the system that any program on S60 not necessarily can. (<- bias!)

So when Motorola uses UIQ 3.1, that's an "upgrade" (new UI elements needed because of no touch- screen) of the UIQ platform, based on the same OS core as UIQ 3 (v.9.1). And eventually when Symbian OS evolves a bit, there will perhaps be new UIQ versions based on newer cores, with a wider variety of hardware options. Of course, there's nothing stopping the same UIQ version from being put on top of a new Symbian core (at least in theory). So for instance if someone developed a crystal storage and light- based processing units tomorrow, it might be possible to write a new symbian version to implement the hardware interface, and then compile an UIQ 3.0 platform based on that core.

That probably won't happen, though. *sigh*
illithid
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Posted: 2007-10-06 15:00
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Don't forget that W960 lacks infra red connectivity, different standby screen, and worse stylus.
Also I noticed in my friend's W950 u can't send e-mail attachments, dunno if W960 will include this.
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