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richardc1983
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Posted: 2007-05-21 00:25
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So is there no way round this then?
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Posted: 2007-05-21 01:22
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I can't believe they changed this? Using folders was the only effective way of creating "playlists" using the computer. So I wonder if you "sort by artist", will it organise the songs by the "artist" folder, or will it use id tag info?
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Posted: 2007-05-21 11:30
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no all that does is jumble them round more.

It doesnt display the folder you have put them in at all. Because ring tones are unknown artists its already put them into unkwnown artists along with my own songs.

Its stupid and i cant believe it seems to rely on tags.

This has really put a downer on the phone for me and wish i had had a like for like replacement and got the w800i cos at least i could create my own playlists on the computer.
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Posted: 2007-05-21 13:16
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pretty stupid I agree. You can put id tags with itunes - very efficient for that purpose.
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Posted: 2007-05-21 13:26
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Would this mean though that i could put different styles of music in the same folder by different artists and it would keep them in this folder. What would it do with the id tag though is that not gotta be the same artist for each song?
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Posted: 2007-05-21 15:51
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well if it can sort by id tag properly, then you can use the "album" tag to set the "style", then sort by "album", which will then sort music by the style you like. In effect creating your own "albums".

But it's still not really an ideal solution

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Posted: 2007-05-21 16:26
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ah rite ok

is itunes free?

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Posted: 2007-05-21 16:40
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On 2007-05-21 16:26:38, richardc1983 wrote:
ah rite ok

is itunes free?



yep. It's only costs to download songs form itunes store, but I never use itunes store because 1. Idon't own an ipod, and 2 I don't want to

But itunes is useful for somethings like editing id tags. Butif you like to use a different program to play music, just make sure when installing that you don't replace file associations with itunes.

you can get itunes from www.apple.com (select the PC version)
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Posted: 2007-05-21 18:39
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Surely someone knows on this site though how to get it like i had it on the w800. Where i can create my own folders.
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Posted: 2007-05-21 20:34
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why don't you simply use windows media player to edit the id tags if artist, album, title etc. is all you need to change. Makes no sense to install another bloated software!

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Posted: 2007-05-21 20:46
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On 2007-05-21 20:34:40, bombadil wrote:
why don't you simply use windows media player to edit the id tags if artist, album, title etc. is all you need to change. Makes no sense to install another bloated software!


Not sure what all this tags thing is, i mean how do i change it. For instance if i have 5 dance tracks and 5 house tracks how do i do it so it puts them in 2 separate folders???
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Posted: 2007-05-22 13:49
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On 2007-05-21 20:34:40, bombadil wrote:
why don't you simply use windows media player to edit the id tags if artist, album, title etc. is all you need to change. Makes no sense to install another bloated software!



itunes is far less "bloated" than windows media player. Anyway, it's true you can edit id tags, unless you encode in AAC, which WMP doesn't support. Otherwise I'd use it myself, since I have it anyway for playing windows media.
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Posted: 2007-05-22 13:52
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Just got a standard reply off sony errison biggin up there d2p software and telling me how to install it!!!

Not impressed at all and ive replied telling them that they didnt even answer my question.

Very poor customer service.
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Posted: 2007-05-22 13:53
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On 2007-05-21 20:46:39, richardc1983 wrote:

On 2007-05-21 20:34:40, bombadil wrote:
why don't you simply use windows media player to edit the id tags if artist, album, title etc. is all you need to change. Makes no sense to install another bloated software!


Not sure what all this tags thing is, i mean how do i change it. For instance if i have 5 dance tracks and 5 house tracks how do i do it so it puts them in 2 separate folders???

id tags are information stored in the sound file itself about artist, songname and album (and other stuff)

In itunes, by clicking on the name of either of those categories you can edit them. You can also get id tag editing freeware if you don't like itunes. Or use WMP if you use MP3's.

Once you have correct id tag info, then in the walkman you have an option to sort by artist or album. If you have entered "house" in the "album" field of a bunch of songs, then when you sort by album you will get a list of songs with all the house music bunched together.
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Posted: 2007-05-22 13:59
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I don't know how it works on the W810, but on my K800, it's possible to create playlists. When you add files to a playlist, you enter a file browser, and if you have put your mp3 files into separate folders for different artists or music styles, you can mark an entire folder (by checking the folder icon itself and not the files within it) to add its contents to the playlist.
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