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Posted: 2002-10-23 08:37
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okay i agree with all of you, good points, however, first lets say that mobile device, if it crashes is not going to take an hour to repair, but i see your point, i would not like that kind of crap from my phone, but i don't think it will happen that badly and often... so, we should wait and see, as far as microsoft goes.. it is reasonable to say that their competitive advantage is the fact that everybody is forced to use them, so i though what the hell, why not give in.. but most importantly i like what the phone will make possible, stuff like outlook and ie on my mobile with media player, sounds intriguing to me.
as for the height of the phone and its size, i can say that it is not much different from the p800, but it is thiner and sleekier... and lighter, and please all keep in mind that i am talking about sendo not this orange thing... additionally, i don't think this kind of phone is intended as a pda per se. i think it is all about multimedia, interactive gui, and stuff like sounds, web and custumization... so imagine how nice it would be to plug in a 128mb sd and watch a half hour movie on this thing... anyway my point remains.
as for the p800 being the ultimate package, that is actually the reason i don't like it to begin with... all those features add up to the brickness of the phone. i mean you got a camera, but it is no where near any low range digicam! than the pda, if i needed that i would get a clie nx70v and a t68i with that and get way better blend than a p800, so i think it does have it all, but all is at low range level... while sendo z100, is a tft 65k color display, all that polyphony and video support and all those javas and html viewers (all thanx to ms) and they are way more advanced than the p800's soft. so it is directed appliance concentrated towards multimedia, and i know if i had one of those i would have much more phone with a phone that is more compact, has higher memory extension possibilities and lets me watch movies on it, than with the phone that has it all, but has it bad. i mean 4k lcd, will become a discrace by the time p800 shows up in your pocket, they will have the 3g handsets at affordable prices by then...
so this phone (sendo) is the one for me, i am drooling, trying to get the early adopter's beta version, and that is okay, i know it is buggy but i just want to have it and anyway i will keep using my t68i the best phone ever...
www.mythstudios.com
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Posted: 2002-10-23 08:49
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does it come with ctrl-alt-dlt keys for when it locks up ?
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Posted: 2002-10-23 09:05
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i hope it does, that would help a lot.
but what i know is that sendo comes with a usb port built in, now imagine the connectivity and wide range of accessories that should be released... and the games, the games are awesome... check the real life pictures here:
http://www.sendo.com/news/lifestyle.asp

i just love this phone....
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Posted: 2002-10-23 09:23
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Yes this does look like a decent phonebut it is still MS, they will have constant upgrades, security patches etc., can you imagine someone sendig a virus to your phone!!!!!

and wiping it clean?? im sure it can be done just give it time, im waiting for hackers to pick apart the PocketPC phones.....
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Rolud
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Posted: 2002-10-23 10:08
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I totally agree with Decoy7 ! Using mobile phone since more than 12 years… what I need today is something to replace my Clié and my T68m(i)… but definitely not bigger than the T68…!!!

A pretty good replacement will probably be the new Siemens S55…

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Posted: 2002-10-23 10:09
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still this is DA PHONE, in other words i simply love it and i want to get it, so now does anyone know where to buy the beta at least and how much, on their website they say 750, but they only sell it to the soft developers, so what do you think, where can i get one...
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Posted: 2002-10-23 10:10
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by the way, i am using a computer for around 10 years and i never had a virus....
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Posted: 2002-10-23 11:43
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check these phones out!

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handphones/0,39001719,39087181,00.htm
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Posted: 2002-10-23 12:26
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Would you really like to have:

A phone that takes 30sec to startup and 30s to turn itself up. And when the phone has crashed and reboots it will complain that you didn't turn it off correctly.

A phone that will have a few security updates every week.

A phone that after 2-3 days use suddenly can't start programs because of some unkown reason, and you will have to reboot. Or suddenly you can't dial a number or answer a call..

A phone with an OS that will slow down after a few days of use. And the only cure is to reboot.

A phone that have lousy standby and talktimes. And not only that suddenly a program will hang and it will use 100% of the cpu, and suddenly you have a standby time of 3 hours without you noticing it until it's too late.

A phone that suddenly runs out of memory, and crashes.

If this is what you want from a phone then by all means go for M$.

I'm sadly using Windows on my computer right now, and I don't like it at all I'm forced to use it because the programs that I use are only available on the Windows platform. Sadly there are no alternatives because of M$ dominance in the market. I have other OS's as well that I would like to use all the time but as I said the important software is only available for Windows, which is really bad. I really really hope that M$ will never get that kind of market dominance on mobile phones. It's sad that people are more or less forced to use M$ products.
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Posted: 2002-10-23 12:36
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before u all make comments on P800 & SPV I suggest you try both handsets first - SPV will be released very soon in UK - P800 who knows??......... [addsig]
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Posted: 2002-10-23 12:50
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Im with orangeman on this one...

I dont care if is M$ or not - if it work and is good then Im getting it - certainly at £180 I think its cheap at the price - esp if P800 is going to cost over £300 and SE have just hyped it up too much - SPV was officially anounced yesterday and should be available to the public NOV only two weeks to build it up... SE have had over 6 months and still havent produced the goods... need I say more?

If I wanted a palm I would have bought a palm..... As long as it does what it says on the packet I'll be happy.
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Posted: 2002-10-23 13:01
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see this other post http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=11792&forum=12&start=20 [addsig]
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Posted: 2002-10-23 13:30
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Isn't it bad enough that Microsoft dominates the PC arena? They also want the console segment (X-BOX) , and now the mobile phone market ? MAN, how much does Bill Gates want ? ( his name even appears on T9 !! )

This post was posted from a R520

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Posted: 2002-10-23 14:12
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Have a look at :

www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/27517.html

Early review of 'canary'


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Posted: 2002-10-23 14:22
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Quote:

On 2002-10-23 12:26, ppcrockar wrote:
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>>A phone that takes 30sec to startup...

T68 takes about this time, and longer to get to the phone book.

>>Or suddenly you can't dial a number or answer a call..

My T68 does this

>>A phone with an OS that will slow down after a few days of use. >>And the only cure is to reboot.

Can you get slower than a T68...
And rebooting doesn't make it faster

>>A phone that have lousy standby and talktimes.
My T68 is down to a day and a bit after 10 months.

OK, OK, the T68 is still a great phone, but it could be better. At the same time, you're comparing this phone to a >80Mb operating system, which is ridiculous. It may have the odd bug (name me a phone that doesn't) but it's hardly going to behave like Windows XP is it.

Personal opinion is that this phone's pig-ugly anyway!

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