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goldenface
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You don't necessarily need a 3G phone to pick up TV. There have been recent trials by BT (British Telecom) using a format that doesn't involve streaming but which uses part of the current digital radio spectrum to pick up TV channels. This uses less data transfer and thus uses battery life more efficiently. It will be big in 2006/2007 and I think its great. There is a thread here somewhere. (Wap).
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JK
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On 2006-04-15 21:38:57, Ranjith wrote:
T.V....hmmm good......but wat name will it have??
WEGAphones?
i wish not...
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carkitter
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Perhaps  will install all 3 technologies (DVB-H, MBMS and DMB digital radio) into thier handsets and allow for different solutions in different regions.
And yes, perhaps plans to add a Wega range to it's Cybershot and Walkman branded handsets?
I'd like the Network to allow a program to remain available for up to a week so that if you miss it or it clashes with another show you can watch it later.
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TV over mobile phones is something I have been evaluating as part of my job for the last three months.
The current situation is this, all the big players are falling over each other to secure the “Mobile TV Rights" to a wide range of sports, lifestyle & hobbyist events.
Some TV networks are so worried by the potential of mobile TV that they will no longer take your regular programming unless you agree to "assign" them the Mobile Rights to your programming, this typically encompasses “TV for Mobile” and “Multi Media” DVB-H, DMB, SMS & MMS. However the good news is that with the “Rights Holders” becoming more and more aware of the value of their “Mobile Rights” this “strategy” is proving to be a little more difficult to execute than the TV companys would like!
I am not remotely surprised that about the SE announcement to put a TV in every phone, the network providers are putting them under enormous pressure to deliver devices that will allow them to compete with their competitors in the great “Land Grab” that is Mobile TV customers.
The phone manufacturers will have little choice but to really start developing DVB-H and similar technologies very quickly, I just hope they are working just as hard on battery technology.
The up side for us consumers is the fact that we will get bigger & better screens in the next generation of phones and minature projection and virtual interface systems will arrive a lot sooner than originally planned.
There are huge sums of money at stake in the push to attract subscribers and “Upsell” them to the 3G network TV Data & lifestyle services wich have proven to be very popular with the public in almost every area they have been piloted, all of which is being driven by the need to recoup the cost of buying the 3G licences in the first place.
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kalleboo
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Streaming TV is already very real, and AFAIK works in every 3G phone out there. Here in Sweden we have a number of streaming channels.
The problem is that the 3G networks won't be able to handle everyone streaming at the same time. The solution to this is DVB-H. The problem with DVB-H is that it requires spectrum, i.e. it'll take a while before it's up and running. |
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sE is talking about tv? hahaha. well, if for sE ppl its fun to watch tv on the tiny screens of k600 or k610 or k800, well, its up to them. i rather take 6680, on that screen at least i can recognize whats on the tv.
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On 2006-05-14 12:39:47, BobaFett wrote:
sE is talking about tv? hahaha. well, if for sE ppl its fun to watch tv on the tiny screens of k600 or k610 or k800, well, its up to them. i rather take 6680, on that screen at least i can recognize whats on the tv.
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I think there will be other models with bigger screens, that are more suitable for mobile tv, in the pipeline.
None of the models you mentioned are DVB-H compatible and I remember reading that will be evaluting what is needed and how mobile tv will be packaged / marketed.
So hopefully, it wont just be a case of rebadging one of the current 3G models like you have suggested.
The goog thing about DVB-H is that it is not 3G network dependant so at peak times, like when people are travelling home and catching up on the news, or when there is a football match on, there is no chance of the network being unable to cope with the large amounts of data transfer, causing loss of service.
Which is why think it is the best option. 
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jmcomms
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On 2006-05-14 12:39:47, BobaFett wrote:
sE is talking about tv? hahaha. well, if for sE ppl its fun to watch tv on the tiny screens of k600 or k610 or k800, well, its up to them. i rather take 6680, on that screen at least i can recognize whats on the tv.
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The K800 is QVGA 240x320.. what's the 6680?? Oh, 176x208 pixels!
And, do you not think that any company introducing a TV-phone might increase the screen size AND resolution? Resolution is every bit as important as size, or you'll see a bigger picture that's fuzzy and ill-defined. However, go too big (like the N92 we have in the office) and it becomes more of a pocket-TV than a mobile phone with TV. Mind you, it does suggest there would be a market for a standalone DVB-H/DAB video receiver - but we'll save that discussion for another day!!
DVB-H has a fixed resolution and frame rate of around 15fps, which having seen on the O2/Oxford trial isn't that great. Mind you, it's all relative - it's considerably better than the other options (like 3G streaming).
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bluechips
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well tv on every mobile phones is a reality. battery technology is far better than you expect and virtual monitor or screen is already introduced.
so don't make it hard with your imaginations.
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dw
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Bad part with tv being streamed more and more over 3g is that I belive soon we in sweden are gonna have to start paying extra tax for mobiles too. (if you own anything that can recieve tv in sweden you have to pay alot don't matter if you buy it for playing videogames or just looking at dvds).
I'm hoping to buy a K800 before this fear gets changed to reality over here.
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jmcomms
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Battery life isn't improving fast enough for all these tasks.
Take the N80 which I'm using, as well as my W810i, which has WLAN, streaming TV (courtesy of Vodafone), a 'full' web browser (the jury is out on whether this is better than something like Opera), 3 megapixel camera (in good light better than a W810i; in low light - it's terrible), music player (the player isn't great, but sound is acceptable) etc etc.
All of this means I've got everything I need in one box.. but if I actually use all of these things as I might with separate boxes then the battery will be dead in mid/late afternoon. Suddenly I have no phone, camera, music player, email or web browser!
I'm normally able to keep the phone on charge at home and work, but when I go out for a long day, it becomes a problem. Fortunately batteries are cheap, and I bet most long-term Nokia users have built up quite a collection of them, but I still think we've got a LONG way to go before we can safely rely on having EVERYTHING done by a single device.
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On 2006-05-15 15:22:22, jmcomms wrote:
Battery life isn't improving fast enough for all these tasks.
Take the N80 which I'm using, as well as my W810i, which has WLAN, streaming TV (courtesy of Vodafone), a 'full' web browser (the jury is out on whether this is better than something like Opera), 3 megapixel camera (in good light better than a W810i; in low light - it's terrible), music player (the player isn't great, but sound is acceptable) etc etc.
All of this means I've got everything I need in one box.. but if I actually use all of these things as I might with separate boxes then the battery will be dead in mid/late afternoon. Suddenly I have no phone, camera, music player, email or web browser!
I'm normally able to keep the phone on charge at home and work, but when I go out for a long day, it becomes a problem. Fortunately batteries are cheap, and I bet most long-term Nokia users have built up quite a collection of them, but I still think we've got a LONG way to go before we can safely rely on having EVERYTHING done by a single device.
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totally agree my n70 lasts about a day
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jmcomms
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The funny this is that you can turn off Bluetooth, turn down the screen brightness, lock the phone to GSM only and so on - but then you begin to wonder why you didn't just buy a 'dumber' phone in the first place!!
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london-uk
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Great news, however in the UK it might not be that good after all. If SE choose DVB-H we'll have to wait. Afaik this will not be available for a good few years to come (2012 I think, but may well be wrong, can't be bothered to look it up right now). This is due to the fact that the frequencies have not been released for use.
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jmcomms
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I know. I think the Government will have to look at how they're going to handle the analogue switch off too.
DVB-T receivers are now so cheap, that the uptake has been higher than expected. I'd be happy to 'pay' for the last few people to get a receiver (selling at £30 SRP in many places, the cost to the Government is likely to be much less unless they screw up, which they probably would!) so we can switch analogue off quicker - and coverage can be expanded to fill in the last remaining gaps with digital terrestrial.
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