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Bloody K750i joystick! |
vrl29
Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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From: Philippines
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ive once again discovered why the joystick can be better then a d-pad
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hmmm... that was my belief before, but since using an S700i, my belief changed... 
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the only time i use my joystick is when browsing files and phone book. i usually use keypads to go around the phone and joystick for submenus
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yes, i must say that was what i used to do when i had joystick-featured phones. it kind of "prolongs" your joystick life... i recommend you do the same to your joysticks on your phones...
SE T68i (Feb2004-May2004)
SE T610 (Sep2004-Jun2005)
SE K700i (Jun2005-Sep2005)
SE S700i (Sep2005-Present) |
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max_wedge
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
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From: Australia
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everyonce in a while my joy scrubs out, then I rotate the joystick around in a circle about 20 times quickly with force (not too much force, just more than normal use), and then find I get another few weeks out of it before I need to do it again.
I don't know about wd40, I'd be more inclined to use isopropyul alcohol in a spray pack - since isopropyl alcohol evaporates without leaving a residue (but don't let the isopropyl on the external casing - it can smudge certain paints and certain plastics - and shield the rest of the phone when you spray the joystick). The WD40 will leave a sticky residue that actually attracts dust - so once you start using the wd40 the problem will occur more frequently.
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womack
Joined: Oct 30, 2005
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My joystick's 'left' and 'up' controls are gone, but heres why its not a hardware problem..
(a) It works in games fine, except the up direction will go up AND right. Left works fine
(b) when the phones light goes off, if i press left or up on the joystick (careful not to press 'enter') the light will come back on, or the locked keys dialog comes up.
So, I believe there is a software/firmware problem on my phone, didnt fix it with the new firmware, I wish SEUS allowed downgrading to the older ones. At this point I would be happy with my original firmware, before the USB bug and this most annoying of problems! |
machuca_622
Joined: Dec 06, 2005
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From: paraguay
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why does se phones have this problems? I have my nokia 6620 since dec 2004 and never had any problems... |
Mohit007
Joined: Jan 29, 2005
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From: India
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In 2002 my Dad got himself a Nokia 7650 and he used it for 18 to 20 months and even the day he sold the handset the joystick worked just as new.I have decided I am never gonna buy a SE which has a joypad.
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roblightbody
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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From: Glasgow, Scotland
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I dont think firmware will fix hardware issues |
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I know that. Thank you. They covered the difference between hardware and software at university
However i'm not convinced it is entirely a hardware/dust issue. I think moving the joystick around might actually be recalibrating it or something.
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max_wedge
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I wondered about that too. Like it has an auto calibrating feature that sometimes needs a kick start.
While it could be easily dust related, nevertheless I find the joystick seems to go funny mostly when using games where joystick movements are mostly forward or up (right or up), aka platform games. This repeated biased use would skew the joystick calibration (if indeed it has auto callibration). The joystick going funny doesn't seem to correspond with dust build up or general use which further supports the callibration theory.
So I think the callibration idea is plausible.
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Gigs
Joined: Jan 19, 2004
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On 2006-03-14 01:54:26, miss uk wrote:
Prob with those phones is that u have to use the joypad for everything know wonder loads of you have breakdowns, I guess you have to be careful of how u use it ppl, btw get a Samsung D600 as ur next phone real gud that 1
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Actually that bold part isn't entirely true The one thing I love about  's is that (well ok unless its a phone like the S700 or W900) you can use the keypad for more things. For instance in the main menu, you don't need to move the joystick to a particular option like messages, settings etc, just press the corresponding key on the keypad (1-#) as they correspond to the icon on screen.
Likewise with the menus, if you have something on screen:
Menuitem1
Menuitem2
Menuitem3
Menuitem4
Menuitem5
Then you can use the keys on the keypad to select those ones too. 
The phonebooks allow you to find everything with the keys as well, or if lazy then you can use the joystick to scroll it. (I count myself in the to lazy to press the other keys camp btw )
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max_wedge
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On 2006-03-17 02:30:00, Gigs wrote:
(I count myself in the to lazy to press the other keys camp btw )
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Hehe! Me too. But it's true you don't need to use joystick if you don't like it.
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m100
Joined: Aug 12, 2004
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My joystick is almost completely dead.Apart from making phone calls the phones is unusable. |
snowdevl
Joined: Feb 11, 2006
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On 2006-03-15 02:59:06, womack wrote:
My joystick's 'left' and 'up' controls are gone, but heres why its not a hardware problem..
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I have exactly the same problem!
Except its my 'right' and 'down' controls that have stopped working.
Like you, when the screen fades, I can still use right and down to make it light back up again.
I was interested in what you said about the games, so I tried... and while playing Super Real Tennis, the 'right' button makes the character move right AND up. The 'down' button makes the character move down AND left.
This all started happning after a firmware upgrade to my phone (i.e., it was fine before that) Argh, such an annoying problem! There must be a way to fix it, tried re-updating the firmware, tried a master reset, NOTHING works!
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Dazultra2000
Joined: Feb 23, 2003
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There has to be something to do with how you're using your phones.
I've had plenty of SE phones with joysticks
T300, T68m, T68i, T630, K700i, W800i and NONE of them have EVER shown any problems whatsoever.
I love my SE joysticks, and I think it's one of the downfalls of my new W900. In fact I've never had a joystick problem ever, not on my V80 or C550.
Thing is at work I see loads of K750i and K700i phones with broken joysticks that people bring in for repair, and they all show one similar characteristic.
Badly treated and caked with dust.
Yet only once have I ever seen one where the joystick has actually detaches from the board itself. |
Sammy_boy
Joined: Mar 31, 2004
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I've just got a k750i with a faulty joystick, it does work but needs quite a bit of pressure to operate. I don't think it's a sw problem, seems in this case anyway that the joystick unit is worn out. Tried cleaning it and stuff, but suspect it would need replacing for it to work at it's former glory again!
Tried that '20 turns clockwise and 20 anticlockwise' with no effect, so I'd say it was often a hardware problem.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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Abik500i
Joined: Apr 21, 2006
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I message a lot on my k500i and use 'Down' and 'Right' directions in the joy stick a lot. I noticed that the 'Up' and 'Left' which I used much less had become un-responsive after a few days/months.
So, just as an experiment, I started using the 'Up' and 'Left' even in cases where the 'Down and 'Right' were the more-convenient options  I also cut down on using the numbers keys for navigation.
Guess what? Now, the 'Up' and 'Left' responsd better than the 'Down' and 'Right' directions !!! So, cud it be a case of rolling stones gathering less moss?
Nowadays, I use all the 4 directions in the joystick so that they are exercised regularly and kept in good fitness.
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>sheldon
Joined: May 12, 2008
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Just thought I would share my solution to this problem, I opened my K750i and decided against changing the joystick because you need a hot air pencil to remove the old one and solder the new one in place (to do it properly that is). I simply cleaned mine, I used a cotton bud soaked it in methylated spirit and then pushed this onto the top of the joystick so that it soaked inside the switch, kept doing this and moving the joystick until i thought it would make a difference. The benefit of using "meths" is that it cleans well and evaporates very quickly and doesn’t leave any residue behind.
And now the joystick works fine......JD
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