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Pistolprins
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Posted: 2006-02-06 14:36
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Any phone which has Internet access is per defination also meant to be reading PDF!

If a manufactor decide that their phone should have Internet via GPRS, or some other way, they have also automatically committed themselves to making a phone, which can read PDF!

It's as simple as that - Internet and PDF sticks together - Sony Ericsson just hasn't learned that yet!
TeenInvader
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Posted: 2006-02-06 14:44
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Is it a standard???

Who set that standard?

And how the did the standards regulators allowed SE to release internet phones not capable of reading PDF???
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-06 15:31
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it's no more a standard than flash, java or any of the other things phone web browsers don't support yet.

pdf is common but proprietary file format.
S4k1s
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Posted: 2006-02-06 22:56
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On 2006-02-06 14:36:42, Pistolprins wrote:
Any phone which has Internet access is per defination also meant to be reading PDF!

If a manufactor decide that their phone should have Internet via GPRS, or some other way, they have also automatically committed themselves to making a phone, which can read PDF!

It's as simple as that - Internet and PDF sticks together - Sony Ericsson just hasn't learned that yet!



Eeehhhhh, NO!

PDF is a proprietary Adobe file format.
It has nothing to do with internet.
It is not a standard!

Is Adobe Acrobat free to download? No, it costs and it costs a lot!

Many think that Internet and Piracy stick together, does that mean that should ship cracked programs and tools with their phones or make them available on their site?
bugsiiy
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Posted: 2006-02-06 23:54
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Ok to make things straight,he was saying that on the internet you find many important documents in pdf format,and you might want to see them on your phone.oh and next time do a litte research,there is the so called adobe acrobat reader,which is free

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S4k1s
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Posted: 2006-02-07 00:05
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On 2006-02-06 23:54:21, bugsiiy wrote:
Ok to make things straight,he was saying that on the internet you find many important documents in pdf format,and you might want to see them on your phone.oh and next time do a litte research,there is the so called adobe acrobat reader,which is free


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FYI I got both.
I use PDF a lot every day in my work - creating, reading and embedding support for it in applications.
Windows, linux, *nix ... u name it...

However, it is not a standard.

All important/mass market documents are translated to HTML.
Have you ever wondered why you often see this? PDF/Adobe Acrobat - See as HTML-version

Many phones with internet don't even have a real html browser, much less a PDF reader.

The K750 is not a smartphone and never pretended to be one either.

Edit: If I seem hostile, I'm not, really I'm not :]

[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2006-02-06 23:06 ]
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-07 00:06
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the reader is free but you have to pay Adobe if you want to design a program or device that outputs in the pdf format. Whereas, text files, jpeg images, sound files etc are based on open standards. You don't have to pay anyone to create software that outputs a jpeg file for example.

We all get that the reader is free, but so far Adobe haven't seen fit to produce a mobile phone j2me reader. Don't blame the phone companies for lack of a j2me version of adobe reader - blame adobe.

S4k1s
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Posted: 2006-02-07 00:13
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Here is more info about some projects going on for creating Java PDF readers/writers. You will find usefull libraries there, if you have the time for it thats it...
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-07 08:58
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On 2006-02-07 00:13:17, S4k1s wrote:
Here is more info about some projects going on for creating Java PDF readers/writers. You will find usefull libraries there, if you have the time for it thats it...



Thanks for those links. I'm gonna have a look, but I don't know java and have only just started to learn. I still don't know if you have to rewrite a java class for j2me or if you can just use it direct So I don't know if I'll get far in the short term.
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Posted: 2006-02-07 09:07
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On 2006-02-07 00:13:17, S4k1s wrote:
Here is more info about some projects going on for creating Java PDF readers/writers. You will find usefull libraries there, if you have the time for it thats it...



Thanks for those links. I'm gonna have a look, but I don't know java and have only just started to learn. I still don't know if you have to rewrite a java class for j2me or if you can just use it direct So I don't know if I'll get far in the short term.




well i hope my case is different... I LOVE PROGRAMMING, its just that PROGRAMMING HATES ME!!!!

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max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-07 12:26
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you design, I'll debugg and test
S4k1s
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Posted: 2006-02-07 22:48
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lol @ both of you :]
atisnz
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Posted: 2006-02-07 23:58
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Adobe Acrobat IS Standard: http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/standards/main.html
rockygali
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Posted: 2006-02-08 02:21
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does the ISO certification a bearing for all standardization process...

errr, am i hitting any point here? hehehe.. well i thought having the ISO certification proves a product of its standards...

eerrrr or was it quality?
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S4k1s
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Posted: 2006-02-08 03:05
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On 2006-02-07 23:58:53, atisnz wrote:
Adobe Acrobat IS Standard: http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/standards/main.html



Did you check your link and read what it actually says?

"Adobe and industry standards"

It says that Adobe Acrobat is now compliant with industry standards including PDF/A, PDF/X, and PDF/E, not that it is a standard it self.
That particular link says that Adobe PDF is now compliant with the PDF/X that is the PDF printing ISO standard.

The ISO standards are a quality measurement.

Not a standard as in "Everybody uses it" but as in "Everybody uses it the same way"
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