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S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-12-17 02:25
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I belive that is pure BS R34GTR
I wouldn't belive tests made from other than independent party about that. HDDs are very fragile!

If you drop a HDD when it's OFF, it can brake but often it don't. If you drop it when it's ON it _will_ brake! How come?

The HDDs have moving platters. It also have read/write heads, they read and write to the platters.

When the hard drive is powered down, each head rests on the platter surface (but since the head actually hits the platter, this happens on a section of platter where there is no data.).

When the drive is running, the spinning of the platters causes air pressure that lifts the heads ever-so-slightly off the platter surface. The distance between the head and platter is very small...so small that the HDA must be assembled in a clean room because one dust particle can throw the whole thing off.

So, if you drop the HDD in ON state .. the heads _will_ hit the platter surface on a spot with data and damage the platters and you will either get cluster errors and lost data or a totaly broken HDD. :|

Also most platters are made of either an aluminium/alloy or glass/ceramic composite and are like glass to the touch... so be gentle

That is why you should not buy a phone with HDD.
mario2002
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Posted: 2005-12-17 03:24
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You describe the technology of a standard hard drive for static use of 20 years ago ! Have you ever heard of electromagnetic lifted heads? Have you ever used a iPod and wondered why does it still play while dropped ? The N91 is a 'Smart phone' using the most widespread operating system with hi-speed Wifi for increased data rate transmission (4gig HD) VOIP around the house when used with a wireless router (I use the Barricade one) and a 'few' other goodies. Greetings from South Africa. Mario :-)

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S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-12-17 15:59
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No mario, this is how harddrives work today.
optiplex
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Posted: 2005-12-17 19:37
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Nokia N91 Vs W900 ?? Do you really need to ask that question? obviously its N91 !. It has all the features of W900 + a whole lot more , and it’s a smart phone! I am not trying to condemn W900, it is a great phone by all means; however I don’t think you can compare a W900 with a N91, in my opinion they are in different classes and price brackets.

EDIT : With regard to music player capabilities ….., well.. still I would say N91 is better cos it has lot more storage space, and since it’s a smart phone, you will have more features. With new GPRS radio stations and other media network services coming up , you might want to stick to a smart phone cos of it’s flexibility.

[ This Message was edited by: optiplex on 2005-12-17 18:43 ]
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Posted: 2005-12-17 19:49
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w900i, looks better, the nokia looks like a bit of a freaks phone to me
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Posted: 2005-12-17 20:14
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all s60 os7 and up and nseries cant compare 2 a SE because w900 is not a smartphone may Pxxx but still nokia is more compartible 4 programs games etc so my vote is 4 n91 and please tell 2 SE make a W900 smartphone and may the vote is 4 W900 lol
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Posted: 2005-12-18 04:35
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w900 is very brick...
give it a break...
compared to N91 it will get a big kick...

[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2005-12-18 03:38 ]
mario2002
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Posted: 2005-12-19 10:39
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Are you sure W900 isn't a smart phone ? Surely looks big enough to be one.

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Posted: 2005-12-19 11:38
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absolutely “connecting people”
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Posted: 2005-12-19 12:48
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On 2005-12-19 10:39:28, mario2002 wrote:
Are you sure W900 isn't a smart phone ? Surely looks big enough to be one.



That is a good question. What are the criteria for a phone to be a smartphone? I also looked at prices for the upcoming 4GB memory stick for SE being released in March and it is apparently going to cost $900!!

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000070026332/

Makes the N91 look very cheap in comparison.

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Posted: 2005-12-19 13:57
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my...my... $900? better i get a phone & an ipod
optiplex
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Posted: 2005-12-19 15:57
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On 2005-12-19 10:39:28, mario2002 wrote:
Are you sure W900 isn't a smart phone ? Surely looks big enough to be one.



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I’m not exactly sure about the definition of a smart phone, but a smart phone should run a flexible OS like Symbian or Windows Mobile which let you access lower level features of the phone unlike java applications that run on a VM with restricted access. Basically you can write a program to do just about anything on a smart phone.

AFIK W900 is running a proprietary SE OS like all other SE phones except P series, and the only applications you can install are java apps. So it does not qualify as a smart phone.


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R34GTR
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Posted: 2005-12-20 16:00
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That seems plausible. I always thought Smartphones had to be Symbian or Windows orientated. cheers
R34GTR
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Posted: 2005-12-20 16:03
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On 2005-12-19 13:57:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
my...my... $900? better i get a phone & an ipod



or the N91 lol which will be more convienient in that sense!
dantheman82
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Posted: 2005-12-20 16:59
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n91 isnt going to be released any time soon

sony 2gb memory stick is down to £65 on ebay

nokia engineer who said that you can drop it over 300 time before it breaks thats just funny once on concrete from 3ft while playing you would be very very lucky if it worked at all
that is stupidest story have ever seen 300+

screen is still same pixels quality as 6600 really nice NOT
even 6230i screen is better than n91

is a big 6600 with a hard drive and 3g

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