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Posted: 2005-11-19 04:07
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Nokia has way too many phones on the market ppl are confused what model can do what.
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Posted: 2005-11-19 11:12
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If anyone has read any interviews with the heads then they would know that market share is not the be-all-and-end-all. Being in the top 6 and making cool phones is better than being No 1 and churning out rubbish!

Personally, I don't think will ever be No 1 in market share. Its just too much to achieve, especially with behemoths like Nokia releasing handset after handset left, right and centre. and heavyweight Moto's stranglehold in North America to contend with.

Motos RAZR range has been doing really well and it probably their top seller, but it has been plagued with problems and the menus far from being intuitive. Pretty but stupid? as one reviewer on the O2 website aptly puts it.

2005 has been a very good year for because their profile has been raised immensely thanks to the runaway success of the K750 - which is still the phone to beat - and the Walkman range which seems to have gone down really well in the Musicphone category. These successes will in turn elevate the entry level handsets.

The ROKR is getting bad reviews and has turned out to be a bit of a limp lettuce as far as being Walkmans main competition is concerned.

@Bahraini. Like I have said before on here, as far as 'bringing out the latest technologies' is concerned, there is very little one company can do that the next one cant. Its the finished product that matters.

For example, most companies can bring out 1.3MP - 2 MP cam phones but how many actually take decent photos?

Plus, I don't see how you can say the P990 and W900 are not good products when hardly anyone has had their paws on one yet. Have you read a review? If you have then please post one here

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Posted: 2005-11-19 12:31
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@goldenface
thanx for ur reply, u cleared lots of things to me
but i never said w900 and p990 not good phone
i mean ppl was expecting something better

like maybe 3 mega cam, stereo speakers, CCD lense
maybe also better design, while i like them, but many ppl
think its not that good ..

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Posted: 2005-11-19 12:52
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Thats OK. I have just read the good review of thw W900i courtesy of Mobile Review.

I am looking forward to reading the P990 review too. Lots of people were expecting a better cam for the EMEA market anyway. Japan have release a 3.2 Mp cam so why they can't do one here I can't even guess. They are definitely holding back.
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Posted: 2005-11-19 13:16
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ok i love the W900i
but the P990i with 2.0MP cam is really interesting as i like my k750i cam its the best in the business better then N90 and for half the price
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Posted: 2005-11-19 13:25
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@Korbindallis Thats true.

I guess what everyone would like to see is the SO902i like they have in Japan - a 3.2mp smartphone.
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Posted: 2005-11-21 02:29
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From the n70 was released,nokia have been releasing great phones

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Posted: 2005-11-24 23:56
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Are SE going back?

Well yes considering the P990i doesn't have proper wi-fi connectivity. SE Fans go on about how the specs for this device are much better than the N91, so can someone explain why it doesn't have 802.11g yet the N91 does?
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Posted: 2005-11-25 04:36
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did you ever stop to think that not everone has wifi? not every country uses it? not everyone wants it, or even knows what it is?

whats the point of putting something in a phone when some people dont know what it even is?

i think the p990 is pretty slick the way it is, it is a major update from the p910, looks fantastic, loads of features.

Let me put it this way, if they brought out a phone, fantastic phone, with absolutly everything you could possibly stick in it, everything everybody is asking for...

a: how f$%*in expensive would it be? would it be affordable?

b: now big would it be? i mean ffs, i want something that aint gonna pull my pants down when its on my waist

c: where would they go from there? this way, in 6months time, tehy can announce a new phone, an update, with a better cam, and wifi....... very smart from a marketting point of viewm that way, if you can afford to get one know, chances are, you can afford to get the update in 6-9 months time

just my two cents

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Posted: 2005-11-25 04:44
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SE is safe at its own place, holding its own standard.

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Posted: 2005-11-25 06:22
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Competition in these device are there to stay! one at the back move forward and the one infront moves back. That is the trend. However, generally SE and NOKIA are ahead.
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Posted: 2005-11-25 06:50
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I think SE is doing a good job. And Nokia can still not put it together. Too many phones way too confusing.
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Posted: 2005-11-25 07:06
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I often seen comments about w900 how its not having anything new and xxx nokia have that feature better and some other model got another feature better and so on. But I still haven't seen another phone with all the features in one model thats better. Sure there are smartphones, but then they shouldn't be compared with w900 they should compare to p990 imho.
Right now I think w900 looks really good though a bit on the heavyer side. Gonna make up my mind if I'll get it after I have had the chanse to test it since more then often pictures/specs don't make the real thing justice.
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Posted: 2005-11-25 09:46
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well.....this is wat ive figured abt the SE market in saudi arabia....ive got a lot of frends...who are nokia fans....

but many of them were really impressed by some of the SE models.....well many of them ...but 80% of them drop the idea of buyin an se.....wen they hear tht they supp no apps.

wat im sayin is....if the s700,k750.w800.w900....were smart phones.....i mean they could have strengthened their market......tht to wen these phones were real big-shots.......

i wish they cum up wid sum gud smart phones.....other than p series...as sum1 said here....
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Posted: 2005-11-25 11:16
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lets hope SE built quality gets better next year and they sort these crappy joysticks out - for such a large company its not on.
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