Esato

Forum > Sony Ericsson / Sony > Software, Firmware and Drivers > mp3 to aac converter.

Previous  123  Next
Author mp3 to aac converter.
numb
K850 Blue
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 09:28
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Personally I dont really see why theres such need for a synchronization software, itunes, d2phone, wmplayer or whatever.

Ive allways found it much easier to simply use fileexplorer and copy/paste, or dragndrop my allready encoded mp4/aac or m4a/aac files, which are organised on my computer.

I use either DBpoweramp/Nero AAC codec or Itunes to convert or rip to mp4/m4a, but allways just copy the files manually through fileexplorer. So much easier and I dont have to worry about all these automated processes that very often gives different results than what you expect, and all that fiddling to make sure it synchronizes the right files to/from the device.

max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-15 09:47
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I agree numb, especially with regards to the K750. There is absolutely no reason to organise music the way itunes etc do (artist\album\trackname)

The W800 playlist is more useful if songs are in folders \mp3\artist\album\songname format, which enables playlist by artist or album, and more fluid playlist creation on the computer itself rather than the phone.

However even so, I still don't see it as that difficult to create a folder on the computer, put your chosen tracks in it, copy it to the phone and add that folder to a playlist. That's how I do it on the K750 and it's a piece of piss.

I also name all my songs artist-songname.mp4, so itunes organise music feature screws that system up.

Targett
C902 Black
Joined: Sep 27, 2005
Posts: 120
From: Sandy Beds
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 13:15
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
All well and good using dBpowerAMP to convert, but the phone doesn't recognise AAC (mp4) files, only m3a... and the size difference between the m3a and the mp3 i have is negligable so I dont really see the point anymore.

If anyone can let me know exactly how I should be doing it to make a bigger difference I'll welcome it, but at the moment I'll stick to d2p i think (or just using explorer).

I would love to use nero etc, but they cost money and as a poor student I cant justify buying them, so it's freeware only for me...
ares
P1
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Coimbra, Portugal
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 13:52
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Quote:
but the phone doesn't recognise AAC (mp4) files, o



uh??? what phone??? k750 reads m4a/mp4

and what is m3a??? lol

Max, itunes is usfull even for k750 users, because it automatically organizes in folders artist - album - tracks, if you want to

and if you use itunesmyportable, you can also choose other type of folder structure, directly from itunes general library

too bad itunesmyportable isnŽt free...


_________________
k750i + hbh 600 + hpm 70

http://pbase.com/ares - photography by ares aka antonioj

[ This Message was edited by: Arez on 2005-11-15 12:59 ]
max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-15 15:06
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
target.. ah.. what drugs you on man?

Arez, agree that itunes is useful for some, but K750 doesn't read id tags of mp4 so it's necessary to have the artist name and song name both in the filename if you want to see both artist and songname in the mediaplayer scrolling display. It doesn't read the song info from the folder structure the way W800 does.

So you end up with songname.m4a in folder "artist". Doesn't work for me, but I'm not dissin' the method since for many peeps it would save a lot of hassle. If I could get itunes to organise folders and song names like below, then I'd use it to make playlists as desired in itunes and just copy the resulting folders to the phone:

itunes music folder\playlistname\artistname-songname.m4a

That would be useful to me

itunesportable hey? Would that do what I want, including artistname-songname.m4a filenames?



[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2005-11-15 14:13 ]
ares
P1
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Coimbra, Portugal
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 15:18
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
yes, everything you want...


when i had w800 firmware (i reverted to k750 firm, because of activity menu), i even made folder with playlist%playlist organization - this way in the "artist" sub menu of w800 mediaplayer, youŽd have playlist made entirely in your pc

iŽm really tempted to buy itunesmyportable, thereŽs nothing free that works like that...if i could find 6 people that wanted it, it would be about 6 euros for each...its only expensive if you buy just one licence
SE w880 + Iphone 4 16gb
max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-15 15:58
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
well that's two of us so far
numb
K850 Blue
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 16:41
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
#Target

download this plugin and install it

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs/dBpowerAMP-codec-mp4.exe

settings:



play on your K750, at same quality as 128kbits mp3 (if converted from same source - not if converted from a 128kbits mp3) filesize example 3.5 mb m4a versus 5.8 mb mp3
max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-15 17:02
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
that's the jobbie.

You can also do a vbr encoding which is mind blowing quality even in the really complex parts of a music piece. abr codecs use more or less the same data throughput for the whole song, regardless of music complexity, which is why it's so common for song files to be great quality until the music really goes off, and then starts to break up and show signs of compression artifacts not evident in the rest of the song.

A vbr will have more consistant quality through the whole song. VBR isn't measured in bitrate as such, since the bitrate varies. I'm no expert but I recorded some tracks as vbr and even the lower ratings (60, 90) are way better than the abr tracks of 64 and 96Kbps, but ONLY in the more demanding sections of the track. But the files are twce the size!

Nevertheless, I am VERY tempted to rip all my music to vbr encoding. Of course for size reasons I would still use abr for the phone.

[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2005-11-15 16:21 ]
numb
K850 Blue
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2005-11-15 17:20
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
havent tried vbr encoded mp4 files on my K750 yet, do they play on the phone ?
max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-15 17:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Yes (atleast they did on my K700, haven't tried on the K750 yet.)

I'm not sure exactly what abr is (it's not cbr - constant bitrate but I think it's similar). opps, just googled it - abr is a vbr which is heavily restricted in it's variability, so yes similar to cbr.



[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2005-11-15 16:38 ]
lastride
W800
Joined: May 03, 2005
Posts: 91
From: Vic, Australia
PM
Posted: 2005-11-18 02:57
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I use foobar it's good player, encoder, coverter and it has cddb look up for just single tracks to you can do everything in it i recommend it

This message was posted from a WAP device

numb
K850 Blue
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2005-11-18 11:35
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Quote:

On 2005-11-15 17:33:46, max_wedge wrote:
Yes (atleast they did on my K700, haven't tried on the K750 yet.)

I'm not sure exactly what abr is (it's not cbr - constant bitrate but I think it's similar). opps, just googled it - abr is a vbr which is heavily restricted in it's variability, so yes similar to cbr.




Cool

I'll definately try them out on my K750

Off Topic:
Just bought a second K750 I gave my son, on a 6 months contract but unbranded (no perscription fee but 25$ pr.month minimum use) since he allreday use 25$ pr. month without contract theres no extra expense involved there, and then I got the K750 for only 50$ - nice bargain I think


[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-11-18 10:35 ]
rhemax
T68 gold
Joined: Nov 09, 2004
Posts: 7
PM, WWW
Posted: 2005-11-18 16:37
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
You could try Dj tonexpress

http://www.djtonexpress.com

It takes any .mp3 or .wma from your computer and convert it into a ringtone after you choose a sample from that mp3
Targett
C902 Black
Joined: Sep 27, 2005
Posts: 120
From: Sandy Beds
PM
Posted: 2005-11-19 11:15
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Quote:

download this plugin and install it

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs/dBpowerAMP-codec-mp4.exe

play on your K750, at same quality as 128kbits mp3 (if converted from same source - not if converted from a 128kbits mp3) filesize example 3.5 mb m4a versus 5.8 mb mp3



Thats what i was doing, but i think when I rip my CD's using win Media Player that I was doing it at a lower rate (MB) of mp3 so thats why it's not really making a diffrence...

But will it be better if I transfer the music into a folder named in the album name, then one as the artists name? or can I just do it into the music/mp3 folder straight off???
Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi