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SE Ignores the U.S. Market I'm Furious ! Grrrrr ! |
Aivar
Joined: Jan 14, 2003
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From: Estonia
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I'm quite sure that the successors of K750i and other high end phones will be quad band phones.
And as you know, there will be "five-band" phones in the market soon: newcomers Nokia E61 and Nokia N80 operate in GSM850/900/1800/1900 and WCDMA networks. I hope that SE will announce about the creation of "five-band" phone in the nearest future too. |
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Arne Anka
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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From: Sweden
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Actually, you need a six band phone to cover every market since NA will not use same WCDMA frequency as the rest of the world once they introduce WCDMA.
This is mainly why it takes so long for NA to keep up with the rest of the world. I would blame your government rather than SE to begin with. |
Supa_Fly
Joined: Apr 16, 2002
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From: Toronto, Ontario
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Reo, obviously doesnt know how the network of Cingular originated. It had so many 1900mhz band holes that it needed patching with 850mhz band JSUT LIKE ROGERS' Wireless here over the boarder. You should also complain about Cingulars laggin method of choice for EDGE while your at it. (hint, its not MSC 9 its MSC 6; which is why EDGE speeds seem low on an average basis).
With all the no cost roaming agreements Cingular has with Tmobile and other major providers there is no reason for 850mhz band. If the phone is a PC4 based device then signal strength will be sufficient. The only reason to complain is if EDGE was only offered on 850Mhz band or their UMTS was as well and SE made a global 1900/2100mhz UMTS phone that left you out.
Apparently here in Canada Rogers Wireless is doing just that with the EDGE service on 850Mhz only band even though They've just swallowed up most of the best cell sites from Fido's 1900Mhz only EDGE.
BTW when you leave the SE camp for a Motorola, dont let the crappy GUI hit your face on the way out. Not being rude but the user interface on ALL motos just cannot compare to an SE, they just seem way too old. |
REO
Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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@Prom1
I do no how Cingular works and I am entiltled to blow some steam.
Everyone blows steam once in a while. Hey who knows... in the end, I may not convert to Moto.
I think both Cingular and  are at fault. Cingular for running on mostly 850 which by the way is proven to be a better signal which penetrates through walls, buldings ect...... And should make more quad band phones.
I do agree that in the years that I've tried a ton of cell phone makers,
there is nothing like the interface , functions and features.
It is what won me over. The first time I tried a phone , I felt as if it were tailored made for me. I hope produces more quad bands in the next series of phones in the near future.
iphone rocks... |
BobaFett
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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how is the marketing of se in the states? many adv in tv, newspapers etc?
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REO
Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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@Bobafett
This area is non existent. A huge area of opportunity.
's Marketing department lays dormant. Mean while Nokia and Moto's are the phone's of choice. ohhh and Samsung as well.
The T616 was a big hit here. No other model has done as well for in the U.S.
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BobaFett
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weird. without advertising its actually no use to launch there more se models. so u mean, since t616 nothing, absolutely nothing? but in us mobile newspapers, do they mention se has launched new models in eu, these are the new se models in asia etc
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Tervel
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
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From: US, TX
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My understanding of why Cingular stayed in the 850mhz band is because they used to have a bunch of towers in their old TDMA days in that frequency range so it was easier for them to just 'upgrade' these towers to gsm than to replace them with higher frequency ones (I could be wrong on this). That is why the Cingular UMTS solution is going to also be running on 850mhz if I recall correctly. Better EDGE might have been nice, but I know of european providers who skipped EDGE entirely and went all the way with UMTS and HSDPA (Vodafone/D2).
As far as leaving for Moto - don't do it. I did it and I came back RUNNING to SE within 6 months. I had a Moto E1000 for that long and I coulndn't get rid of it fast enogh when I decided to get a K750 (it actually sold in less than 6hrs on ebay  ). Motorola's contact management is pathetic. It reminds me of my old StarTac phone... And the fact that it BLENDS SIM entries along with your internal phonebook entries makes it almost impossible to find someone's number in a hurry.
I'm hoping that Cingular is in the process of negotiating some new phones from SE because as of a week or 2 ago there are NO MORE SE phones on their site  They used to sell the S710a and the Z500a, but now neither one is available from them... |
ChuckG
Joined: Nov 07, 2005
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This thread reminds me of imperial vs. metric system...If Cingular is stubborn at keeping its 850 network while the rest of the world is on other frequencies, it will eventually burn them. There must be thousands of users like you who won't switch to Cingular because of that. I dropped them 3 years back because of their customer service and plan price and never looked back.
For SE, unless there is a business case to build a quad band for Cingular, they will just focus on Europe and Asia. TMO should have jumped on it though...but they seem to accept the fact that their cell phone choice is a joke. What a great opportunity would it have been for TMO and SE to use the bad press about the ROKR in their favor.
In the mean time, SE is doing very well with the W800 in China and elsewhere. It was even mentioned in their quarterly report. Cell phones are sold at a premium in China (at least) and there are more cell users there than in US now...so SEs business analyst can do the math... I was in China a month back and W800 was everywhere, with gadgets like backpack, external speakers and such...
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REO
Joined: Nov 21, 2004
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Cingular will be offering the Z520a a the end of this month.
I have not heard of any other models for this year.
iphone rocks... |
BobaFett
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i just visited the u.s. se web, well, now i underastnad why are u so disappointed... which was the best selling se model over there? any official data about the marketshare of u.s. mobiles?
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KLG2992
Joined: Sep 01, 2005
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Hey! Just to let you know..... The reason they are not adding high end phones because they are expensive! They are so expensive, if the carrier is selling these phones and if a costomer breaks it acidently its expensive to get a new one for free! If the carrier is buying these expensive phones and replacing them for free the business will get bankrupt. Bye- KLG2992  |
BobaFett
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and why is it no problem in the other countries all around the world?
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*Jojo*
Joined: Oct 15, 2003
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Yeah, Motorola rules the American celfone market by heaps and bounds ! I am also wondering why the most-advanced 'military-warfare-nation' on the planet is so much late in mobile handset market-release  Maybe is targeting the Asian and Indian market as these two are the most 'populous' nation in the world !
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Manuel_max
Joined: Apr 16, 2005
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Motorola phones have a great design, but no is the best phone dude, Maybe in Us is a big leader sales, but the best market is europe and asia. the more advanced Telecommunications in this area is the key for S.E, maybe Some service Supplier in states need change to Gsm and open the market!!
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