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7650i can se compete with nokia? |
manuela
Joined: Aug 18, 2002
Posts: 110
From: Austria
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619
Joined: Jun 19, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: if you dont like my posts, IGN
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how come you guys keeps opening up new topics w/ the contents? all the nokia blah blah around... anyway..
Nokia is just catching up. I been seeing colors since dec 2001 while nokia introduced their 1st colored phone this july. Nokia will be having 5 colored phn- 7650, 7210, 6610, 3650 and 3510i but dont forget, 7210=6610 and 3510i is just an upgraded 3510.
7650 suck big time, no doubt abt it...
3650 looks like 1st generation philips genie phn i had 3 yrs ago.
and the keypad reminds me of our telephone before- rotary type.
7210 and 6610 are the same, no bluetooth, no email client.. etc
t39 and R520 has already bt, email client, syncml, ems
Maybe SE shld make T39i and R520i with colors and introduce as a new phn.
dont judge the phone by the lcd colors.. |
manuela
Joined: Aug 18, 2002
Posts: 110
From: Austria
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so Bluetooht,email all these functions still doesnt help SE?? nokia is leading like always! just think why? |
anas
Joined: May 29, 2002
Posts: 323
From: T68i To 7650 To P800
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because 99% of people dont care about bluetooth, email, sync ml, etc.
most of the people care about the trendy design.
Sony Ericsson P800 |
jb
Joined: May 21, 2002
Posts: 303
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Yep, people are just too ignorant. I don't only think nokia phones suck, I think nokia as company is harmful to the market.
In order to ever make things like gprs/wap/color hit big time in the west, nokia has to make color screen phones with gprs and wap. They won't do that unless they are being threatened, so SEMC etc has to start to make phones like these.
This is how now things are introduced in the mobile phone market. Usually SEMC releases a phone with great features but somehow manages to sell mediocerly. By the time nokia catches on, it will be slightly outdated.
Nokia DOESN'T EVER push a technology, they identify a market and tries to dominate it. That really sucks. One example is how wap was left out of 3310 to save a few bucks.
I-mode in japan was aggressively pushed, and became a success. The demand for SMS was ZERO before phones started to include that capability. The demand for something is ZERO if it is completely new and generally non-existant.
SEMC is the market leader because it PUSHES new technology. Nokia is just harmful to the market because it essentially sells sheep in wolves' clothing. |
Super G
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: France
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@ 619: Nokia's had the 9210 on the market before the T68. And btw, T68 was first released without MMS (though it was launched as supporting MMS), i.e. with a cosmetic color-screen, since you can't really make use of it apart from putting background pics. Note that 9210 has a web browser, hence the color screen can be used meaningfully.
@ jb, Japan and Europe are two very different arenas.
Don't forget that in Japan, operators hold the manufacturers. They know exactly what they want and order it from phone vendors. I-mode, since you raise it, is not much in itself, technologically speaking (it's very very similar to GSM data 9.6kbits per second), but tons of services are available! Dream on to get this in Europe... European operators still havent understood that a technology itself doesn't sell. Services sell. And they still havent understood that they just provide a carrier, and should open it to different and innovative service providers.
Now also, European operators blame Nokia because a technology can't sell as long as there is no Nokia phone supporting it. That makes me laugh a lot. These operators do not even have the technology ready before the phones are out!!! For instance they've blamed the lack of MMS handsets or GPRS handsets, while they didn't even provide MMS or GPRS as they were not even ready for it. C'mon!! They should take their own responsibilities and stop blaming others for their own fault.
The point is that Nokia has known how to use a technology. See e.g. picture messaging, ringtone download etc, via SMS! Operators are making a lot of money with this (Cingular for instance earns more with this than with normal phone calls!). And this has been copied through the EMS that others are now happily supporting. See also the success of Club Nokia. Again, operators are not happy with it. But hey, they don't even offer half of it...
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Posted: 2002-09-06 20:10
