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Nokia 7650 vs SonyEricsson P800 |
oxegn
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I phoned SE in the UK and they said it will have T9 upon final release. We shall see.
Might go down to CPW Oxford St again today or tomorrow and have another look at the P800, anyone got any questions about it that I might be able to investigate?
(The early version they have doesn't have T9 as far as I can tell).
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Super G
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They're both limited by network...
As far as I know, there are mandatory features to be in a GPRS phones, among which the coding schemes which set the speed over the air.
The fastest reaches a speed of 21.4 kilobits per second (CS4) for data, per timeslot.
The 115kilobits per second is then definitely bullsh*t! 
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Froddan
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On 2002-09-04 13:22, jplacson wrote:
P800 can hit UPload speeds of 50K and DOWNload speeds of about 115K... P800 GPRS speeds are limited by network... 7650 GPRS speeds are already at max.
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I'm not an expert at this. Could you explain how that would be possible? If I have 1 timeslot, surely that must be slower than 2?
And the network limitates both of these, I believe the speed in one slot is 13,4 here in Sweden.
That means a download of max 53,6 and upload of max 13,4 for P800, and max dl 40,2 max ul 26,8 for 7650. |
Super G
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Not to mention the 50K upload!! |
adamrj
Joined: Jan 15, 2002
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"Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it is what you put into it"
Hmmm... when have you ever put anything nice into a sewer  |
Froddan
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Take a look at the white paper, page 84. Not quite 115/50...... |
cadcad
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For the speaker thing, P800 has it... how would it have polyphonic tones without speakers!?!? and for the T9 i never used it... anyway i hope it's there ... |
oxegn
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On 2002-09-04 13:36, adamrj wrote:
"Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it is what you put into it"
Hmmm... when have you ever put anything nice into a sewer
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Eh???? |
Ulukai
Joined: Jan 27, 2002
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It was a joke. Don't u get it?
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Hoggi
Joined: Feb 25, 2002
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The 7560 do not handle MMS slideshow. This makes litle movieclips impossible on the phone. You have to open every pic one at a time.
Whitch handset playes movies perfectly?? The T68 of course! 
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Spacer
Joined: Aug 22, 2002
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Some theory first:
Coding Scheme: CS1 9.04Kb/sec. CS2 13.4/kb/sec. CS3 15.6kb/sec CS4 21.4kb/sec
These per slot speeds are theoretical. Real~: cs1:<=6.7 cs2:<=10 cs3<=12 cs4:=16.7
GRPS multislot classes
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GPRS Multislot
Class
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Timeslots per download
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Timeslots per upload
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Maximum concurrent timeslots
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1
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1
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1
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2
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2
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2
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1
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3
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3
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2
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2
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3
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4
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3
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1
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4
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5
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2
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2
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4
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6
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3
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2
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4
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7
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3
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3
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4
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8
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4
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1
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5
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9
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3
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2
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5
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10
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4
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2
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5
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11
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4
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3
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5
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12
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4
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4
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5
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13
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3
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3
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Unlimited
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14
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4
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4
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Unlimited
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15
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5
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5
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Unlimited
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16
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6
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6
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Unlimited
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17
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7
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7
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Unlimited
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18
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8
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8
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Unlimited
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19
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6
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2
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Unlimited
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20
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6
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3
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Unlimited
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21
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6
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4
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Unlimited
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22
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6
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4
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Unlimited
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23
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6
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6
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Unlimited
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24
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8
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2
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Unlimited
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25
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8
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3
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Unlimited
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26
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8
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4
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Unlimited
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27
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8
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4
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Unlimited
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28
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8
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6
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Unlimited
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29
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8
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8
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Unlimited
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Nokia 7650 is GPRS multislot class 6.
confirmed: 1u/3d 2u/2d should be capable also of: 3u/1d
P800 is multislot class 12
confirmed: 1u/4d should be capable also of: 2u/3d,3u/2d,4u/1d
Modes not officially supported should be accessable by At commands
tweaking.
Regards Spacer |
Super G
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@ spacer:
P800 has a GPRS multislot class 8, not 12. 1 uplink only! Sorry
Besides, it is NOT possible to have more uplink timeslots than downlink timeslots...
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jplacson
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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Sorry, my mistake...correct info:
P800 4+1 (CS 1-4)
DL Max: 85.6 K
UL Max: 21.4 K
As far as I know... the 7650 is CS-2 only.
[ This Message was edited by: jplacson on 2002-09-04 15:37 ] |
Spacer
Joined: Aug 22, 2002
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I never saw mention about limitation for
number of upslots less or equal to number of downslots.
From where u got this limitation can you proove it with some link (URL)?
But if its so everything makes sense now (if P800 is GPRS class 8
as i checked sony chip supposedly used in future mobiles and it stated gprs class 12 but in white paper of P800 from april it clearly supports just 1u/4u (GPRS class 8 by deduction). |
stevo
Joined: Jan 11, 2002
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From: Dunstable, england
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wow thanx, i used to be baffled by all this 3+1 2+2 talk but now i kno! |
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Posted: 2002-09-04 13:29
