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Saka
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Posted: 2009-10-27 05:03
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A question for old s60 users: Every time I connect to a random Wi-Fi hotspot (like for example when I'm outside) it saves the access point. I don't want all access points I connect to saved and it bothers me having to delete them from destinations afterwards. Is there any way to disable auto-saving of access points or to prompt me if I want to save it or not?
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Posted: 2009-10-27 08:56
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When you have missed calls and missed SMS doest it have any lights effect like on 5800?
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Posted: 2009-10-27 10:12
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Just a question. If I am browsing the internet and want to enter an address I activate the on screen qwerty. If I change my mind how do I cancel the qwerty and get back to the internet?

Thanks.


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Posted: 2009-10-27 10:23
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Can satio play any movie file? say AVI whithout converting to MP4.
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Posted: 2009-10-27 10:27
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On 2009-10-27 10:12:05, goldenface wrote:
Just a question. If I am browsing the internet and want to enter an address I activate the on screen qwerty. If I change my mind how do I cancel the qwerty and get back to the internet?

Thanks.






you simply click the "tick" button without writing anything....that will take u back to ur browser...
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jmcomms
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Posted: 2009-10-27 11:12
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On 2009-10-27 10:12:05, goldenface wrote:
Just a question. If I am browsing the internet and want to enter an address I activate the on screen qwerty. If I change my mind how do I cancel the qwerty and get back to the internet?


There is no cancel option. You simply press the green tick and THEN you can cancel. It's not very intuitive at all is it!

S60v5 is full of things like this. The Wi-Fi problem mentioned above is another, as is the fact that it won't always find a Wi-Fi connection without rebooting the phone. I've had my phone fail to see ANY wireless hotspots when scanning until a reboot.

Has anyone else also found that sometimes the fourth panel (or the one immediately to the right of the home screen panel) sometimes fails to show thumbnails for images? It will just show a 'recycling' style image for everything - and, again, you'll need to reboot.

Oh, and last night I was on a rail replacement bus at midnight and despite showing the BT logo in the status bar and the arrows to show a connection, it decided half way through an episode of South Park to switch to the internal speaker and blast out to everyone on board trying to sleep. I had to turn off the headset and back on to get it to re-pair. Most embarrassing and annoying!

I went to Nokia's Forum Nokia pre-SEE meet-up last night at their Regent Street store, and it's shocking how many people are still saying Symbian will do well. They showed a preview of the next version of the OS (which I sadly missed) but it's NO good showing off something that is a year or so away.

S60v5 needs a major facelift and NOW. It needs to be given to ALL Symbian licensees - not just Nokia - and every manufacturer needs to give it as a free update, not try and get people to buy a new device. While S60v5 is tolerable, the fact is it will put many other people off for life (and already has, if you consider how many people have ditched it for Android or something else).

And the rumours that Nokia will ditch Symbian completely are still circulating, even on the low-mid range devices, which makes me wonder what will happen to the company. I mean, if Nokia owns it then what do they intend to do with it? Folding it would be stupid, but who would buy it?
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Posted: 2009-10-27 11:16
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@jmcomms: you have had only not good moments with your Satio
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Posted: 2009-10-27 11:28
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Can Satio be easily debranded and unlocked? I'm seriously considering taking the upgrade '3' are offering me on my second contract. If it's not easy to do then I'll cancel that contract and just use my Aino.
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Posted: 2009-10-27 11:41
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On 2009-10-27 10:23:07, gordonowusu wrote:
Can satio play any movie file? say AVI whithout converting to MP4.


Sadly,no...
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Posted: 2009-10-27 11:50
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On 2009-10-27 11:12:48, jmcomms wrote:
On 2009-10-27 10:12:05, goldenface wrote:

S60v5 needs a major facelift and NOW.
[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2009-10-27 10:17 ]



Some cutting but i agree with youre whole post!

I came from a200 from sony but what a mess is s60.. I thought Nokia was a big brand but i don't understand how they could use s60 on so much phone's.. For non touchscreen i could be good ? i dont know..

There is no line in the interface, menu-refreshing like windows 98 (part for part) no auto rotation of keyboard, and i can go on. I can write an artical like "100 thing i hate about s60" ..
I've using a 3 years old LG viewty and the interface looks more modern and better then this.. AND ITS LG with one of the first touchscreen os..!!!
I hope the satio can use some other os in the future (maybe Android?) or is that a to baeutifull dream?

I like the Satio for the rest btw
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Posted: 2009-10-27 12:16
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On 2009-10-27 11:16:46, tranced wrote:
@jmcomms: you have had only not good moments with your Satio


That's not true. My complaints are always about the OS (and a few other minor niggles) but the Satio has an awesome camera, good media player and many other nice things - but I am not one to sweep the problems under the carpet.

I say what I do because I want things to be fixed. I've said things before that have helped lead to changes and improvements (and not just me, I might add for the benefit of the other people who prefer to give constructive criticism as against simply saying 'it sucks' with no qualification) and want Symbian to get out of the mess its in. If they don't listen, there won't be a Symbian OS this time next year in my opinion - unless Nokia just puts it into virtual hibernation for a year and relaunches it in 2011.
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Posted: 2009-10-27 12:53
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@jmcomms: that's what i wanted to hear(read). I've seen some of your posts complaining about it. But now i read this i know i was wrong.
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jmcomms
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Posted: 2009-10-27 13:10
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This thread (below) is a good place to post differing opinions. I think it confirms that while there are lots of things to frustrate you about the OS (or should I say the UI to be more accurate), people are generally willing to compromise in order to enjoy the good things. This is what I hope my review concluded - as it did with the Samsung I8910 HD.

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=190432
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vegetaleb
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Posted: 2009-10-27 13:36
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You had the i8910 before the Satio?
Where does the Satio beat the i8910?
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jmcomms
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Posted: 2009-10-27 13:43
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I still have the I8910 HD and there are key differences like the capacitive touchscreen (which makes a big difference and I hope SE uses this on its next Symbian device, if they make one) and HD video recording. The AM-OLED screen does also mean that I've never had the battery problems I've experienced on the Satio. Oh and (on some firmware builds) there's the excellent 3D task manager that would look great on the Satio, N97 etc.

But, the Satio has an awesome camera and feels more like a phone, plus it has a nice SE front-end that beats the Samsung widgets or the usual S60 stuff.

Swings and roundabouts really - the I8910 HD is an excellent package, and like the Satio, let down by the OS. However, it seems that Samsung has walked away from Symbian now* - so how long will they be supporting the platform?

(*I don't want to start rumours flying, but I've been told there's no Symbian device on the 2010 road map so far - hence you could class this as walking away, even if they are still a licensee)
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