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Muhammad-Oli
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Posted: 2008-04-08 13:14
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I think he meant those questions to be examples. Like he wants to know other weaknesses and places where WM is lacking (and its strengths too).
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aksd
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Posted: 2008-04-08 14:22
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On 2008-04-08 13:14:26, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I think he meant those questions to be examples. Like he wants to know other weaknesses and places where WM is lacking (and its strengths too).



lol my bad .

Lets see, whats missing from UIQ, we'll UIQ is a lot more end user friendly imo. You'll feel a bit bogged down with WM initially but once you get to grips with it its good. You'll spend hours getting it set up right, if set up right you can access all your improtant functions from the today screen.

You need to put in quite a bit of effort and time in getting things to your liking in WM whereas in UIQ things are good as they are, but once you get them right then its better than UIQ in my opinion. Its very hands on, so if you need to be prepared to be hands on with WM.

The dialer is'nt great, nothing beats a good hardware keypad for dialing.

I dont think WM allows you to multiple select in its core form, but with TouchFlo installed you can multiple select(I've only used TouchFlo so I'm not sure on this point) and copy and paste.

Strangely I've got copy paste in my messages and other programs where required in my WM6 kaiser.

Overall I dont think you should be too worried, if the OS does'nt do something theres usually a mod/app that fixes it.

But I advise you to wait a bit after its released to see if it performs well on the Multimedia front. If it does'nt its really not worth the money.


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Posted: 2008-04-08 18:16
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Thank you for your reply. i don't mind some time setting the thing up, as long as i can make it work to my liking. I've just never owned a WM device and am not quite sure what to expect.

It will be at least 2-3 months before it's available on contract from my mobile provider so I am hoping there will be enough eager enthusiasts who will try it out thoroughly before I'm even able to get my hands on it i don't doubt there will be plenty.
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Posted: 2008-04-08 18:26
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On 2008-04-08 14:22:09, aksd wrote:
I dont think WM allows you to multiple select in its core form, but with TouchFlo installed you can multiple select(I've only used TouchFlo so I'm not sure on this point) and copy and paste.


I'm sorry, but what does that mean - multiple select.

I'm really into this device, because of 800x480 screen and HSUPA (apart from other specifications which are no less than great).

my demands are few, but i think the hardest to please:
- decent battery life (i know it's 1500Mah, but that tells me nothing, i want to see it's performance, specifications on paper will not do). not just for plain phone functions, but for multimedia as well
- decent speed (same thing with proccessor, I've had enough of lagging UIQ3)
both of those things require the phone to be released, so i guess I will have to wait before buying. These two can really be a deal breaker for me.

one more thing:
it it possible to use the phone as a modem, so i can use my phone's internet connection for internet on my PC? (sorry if it's a stupid question but better be save than sorry).

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aksd
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Posted: 2008-04-08 20:26
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I meant select multiple files to copy/paste etc.

The battery life should be decent with moderate usage, you can monitor your battery usage and close battery intensive processes if you want to extend your battery stand by time.

I cant comment on the multimedia or processor capabilities as its not out yet, but on paper it looks good and if the implementation is what they claim then there should be virtually no or worst case a fraction of a second lag.

Yes it can be used as a modem, very easily in fact because of activesync.

Mayeb you can wait till May 6th before deciding as HTC is to release a few new models which might trump the X1 or mght be a few android devices lined up which will be worth purchasing.
chombos1
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Posted: 2008-04-08 20:59
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why not?
why multiple selecting is not possible? did you tested the device?
laurenke01
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Posted: 2008-04-08 23:07
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On 2008-04-04 07:27:45, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I find it funny in the link above how they say its aimed at the US market, so all the Americans reading th article ask for CDMA! Don't they know CDMA is widely considered to be backward technology and that the rest of the world is going or has gone GSM? Do they not know that SE gave up on CDMA several years ago?



Now you see what I have to put up with.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 02:23
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On 2008-04-08 12:20:48, Jabe wrote:
- the copy/paste function is now possible (but not in all applications)
i thought it was selfunderstood, not something v6.1 of any OS can brag about


I've never had any issue with copy and paste in WM OS or WM apps, from all versions of pocket pc and WM that I've used. If the app doesn't support copy and paste then it's the app developers laziness not WM to blame.

You can multiple select items in a list for example, using the virtual keyboard CTRL key, or sequential items in a list using tap and drag to lasoo the items just as you can with a mouse.

So I'm not sure why this would be listed as a "new" feature of WM6.1, because it isn't
Jabe
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Posted: 2008-04-09 12:49
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I saw it here:
http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]e-61-standard-in-100-pictures/
and some other websites as well. Once they were more specific, saying it's copy/pasting of text within certain apps (it's what i meant as well), not copy/pasting files. And for both versions - standard and pro.

Anyways, wm 6.1 has it so this should not be my concern any more. I was just trying to get more info if there were any more hidden "surprises" like that. I remember when I first bought UIQ phone (p900) i was really taken aback when i could find no profiles - you know stuff you don't even think about, stuff you think any phone has. Of course there may be 3rd party apps to compensate for these shortcomings (which is acceptable). specially if there is no tricks aimed at developers presented as greater security for the end user like "symbian signed" fiasco. After almost 2 years I still have no profiles support on my p990 (UIQ3).

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aksd
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Posted: 2008-04-09 14:38
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No profiles on WM either , I actually dont have a need for profiles, either I need it to ring or just vibrate. I'm not sure if there is any external software for profiles on Wm6 as well
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:37
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On 2008-04-09 14:38:17, aksd wrote:
No profiles on WM either , I actually dont have a need for profiles, either I need it to ring or just vibrate. I'm not sure if there is any external software for profiles on Wm6 as well



My HP HW6900 has the HP profiles app as standard. I'd say it wouldn't be hard to find third party solutions if needed for vanilla WM's.


On 2008-04-09 12:49:47, Jabe wrote:
I was just trying to get more info if there were any more hidden "surprises" like that. I remember when I first bought UIQ phone (p900) i was really taken aback when i could find no profiles - you know stuff you don't even think about, stuff you think any phone has.

There's bound to be something but it's the same when ever you move to a new platform. Nokia have some pretty obvious things missing that you take for granted on an SE phone, but then they have some things that SE have over looked completely. You'll never get away from this, otherwise all phones would be the same (and boring).
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masseur
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:44
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Spb do some great software and their Phone Suite includes profiles
mib1800
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Posted: 2008-04-10 07:26
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spd mobile shell looks more practical/familiar interface than X1 panels.
max_wedge
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Posted: 2008-04-10 08:56
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I haven't tried either. Not too interested in paying for spb, I'd probably continue using "today" screen anyway. Maybe if they have a demo I'll give it a look see.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 09:03
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Naah I've paid for and use SPB mobile shell, I think the panels are better.
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