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jladonis935
Joined: Jun 06, 2013
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From: Philippines
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Having 2 or more flagship models will put off customers. The reason why Apple and Samsung is on top right now is because they have an established FLAGSHIP model, the Galaxy S series and iPhone. They only update them once a year and they retain more of their monetary value more than those being replaced every 6 months. Customers wants the best from what they can buy for a long time and they want value for their investment. Samsung may have many products on their portfolio but only one is the flagship. Apple introduced iPhone 5c but still the Flagship is the 5s.
I like what Sony is doing now, they are moving more upmarket, they announced that they are ditching the low end segment for good. They are also releasing lesser models and they have been updating the firmware of their handsets on par with the competition. If they continue this as well as investing more on marketing and product placement they will surely overtake Samsung on the Android race.
Sony and Apple Products are the best. Samsung will always be a copycat. My Phone History-Sony Ericsson t300i-k750i-p990i-Nokia n82-iPhone 4-iPhone 4s-Sony Xperia S-iPhone 5- Sony Xperia Z1- Sony Xperia Z3 |
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Wishmaster89
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 333
From: Warsaw, Poland
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On 2013-09-16 07:52:06, jladonis935 wrote:
[...]The reason why Apple and Samsung is on top right now is because they have an established FLAGSHIP model, the Galaxy S series and iPhone. They only update them once a year and they retain more of their monetary value more than those being replaced every 6 months.[...]
So how come S4 is going to be soon upgraded with snapdragon s800 CPU? There is also rumour that the octa version will also be upgraded with their improved octa exynos.
It's nothing more than upgraded version of 'flagship' device and I think I prefer Sony's style with better upgrades than only CPU, after all last year and a year before that it was exactly what they did with Arc/Arc S and S/SL and now Samsung is going to do the same thing  |
miromiromi
Joined: Jul 25, 2013
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i like them releasing new flagships that way because of the price reduction although i think it's preferable having just one flagship in a year. they can just do a refresh in the second half if a new processor becomes available to be competitive.
also, i hope sony can find a way to integrate google image search with their camera app. that way we can find information about almost anything by just using the camera. their info eye is useful but it could be more useful if we could immediately do a search by simply taking a picture.
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Sonysta
Joined: May 25, 2013
Posts: 198
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I disagree with you !
Indeed Xperia Z1 fared better !
But the victory was not easy, in fact I think Z1 obtained only a slight advantage !
Unexplainable, since the Z1 has a much larger image sensor !
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ZappyDen
Joined: Sep 05, 2013
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i dont know how is that
And HHT mode was not turned on i think so,which could make a vast difference.
And yet thats not my decision
The author concluded z1 a winner in mostly majority of set
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sponse
Joined: Jun 18, 2013
Posts: 252
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the nokia 925 is not bad at low light , we can even see it here:
http://www.sonymobile.com/glo[....]ults/xperia-z1/#camera-overall
bear in mind that the software of the z1 is not finalized, and the bionz should be improved... and then you will start seeing the z1 in full action.
TBH the lumia 925 seems better in night shots at automode than his younger better specd brother.. the lumia 1020.
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ZappyDen
Joined: Sep 05, 2013
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^agree
lumia 925 edges Lumia 1020 in low light in many situations.
I have seen some comparisons
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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On 2013-09-16 07:52:06, jladonis935 wrote:
The reason why Apple and Samsung is on top right now is because they have an established FLAGSHIP model, the Galaxy S series and iPhone.
Questionable.
I would say Apple is succesfull because they introduced a great and disruptive phone, and that delivers a really polished and enjoyable user experience. They have the advantage of the first mover.
Samsung, as in other area, is succesfull because they deliver a product "almost as good" for cheaper. They do update their flagship more than once a year, eg they will soon launch the GS4 alpha in Japan, so the one per year statement is innacurate. Also, they are not successful thanks to the GS only, but because they are efficient in declining the platform in many models, form factor and price segment. They have the advantage of efficient, low(er) cost industrial process.
You could add the marketing in the mix, but this is just part of the story, not the most important. You can fail with a lot of marketing. No need to dig very deep to find examples, look at the surface! 
EDIT: by "almost as good", i meant almost as good, so less good, but also almost the same, or borrowing the ideas to make something that seems identical.
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evilhomura89
Joined: Apr 24, 2007
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@shotokan
the Z1 in Japan, will it be the same as the rest of the world
or it is just docomo who will be releasing their own customized model?
Will it have extra features such as IR and TV seg tuner?
from the QX10/100 casing for the Z1, there's an additional hole |
randomuser
Joined: Sep 13, 2011
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On 2013-09-16 13:56:50, evilhomura89 wrote:
@shotokan
the Z1 in Japan, will it be the same as the rest of the world
or it is just docomo who will be releasing their own customized model?
Will it have extra features such as IR and TV seg tuner?
from the QX10/100 casing for the Z1, there's an additional hole
Yes it(SO-01F) will have IR blaster and TV seg tuner. |
DexterMoser
Joined: Jul 03, 2013
Posts: 443
From: Bay Harbor Islands, Miami
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^ I'm jealous 
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Wishmaster89
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 333
From: Warsaw, Poland
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Would love to see Z1 variant with DVB-T in built 
Considering that you can buy external tuners with microUSB connector for tablets then nothing stands on the way to integrating it with smartphones and phablets. Wouldn't mind paying 20-30 dollars more for it |
Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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On 2013-09-16 14:17:41, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-09-16 13:56:50, evilhomura89 wrote:
@shotokan
the Z1 in Japan, will it be the same as the rest of the world
or it is just docomo who will be releasing their own customized model?
Will it have extra features such as IR and TV seg tuner?
from the QX10/100 casing for the Z1, there's an additional hole
Yes it(SO-01F) will have IR blaster and TV seg tuner.
Thanks Ramu I was unable to answer, the people at Sony did not say anything.
The phones used to have one seg, but now full seg (full HD) is becoming standard, so I think the Z1 will need full seg at Docomo and also at AU. Docomo version may come with 32GB of memory (just my guess) because the Fujitsu is currently 64GB so I expect the next Fujitsu to be at least 64GB if not more.
I read that Docomo planned a 3 top campaign with the Z1, the Fujitsu and the Sharp to counter the iphone 5s at Softbank and AU. This included discounts for the 3 phones, like what happened this summer with xperia A and GS4, which helped XA sell 1,300,000 units in about 3 month in Japan. But now that the iphone is coming to Docomo, I read that the campaign/discounts may be cancelled. This could be the final blast and the end for the Japanese phone makers.
The timing is unfortunate for the Japanese makers, because globally iphone is loosing steam and android is winning the battle, it has just yet to happen in Japan. Samsung and the chinese makers will get the benefit in the future. There will obviously be a lot of pressure on Docomo to keep the campaign, but at some point the remaining Japanese makers need to make a choice, give up like NEC and Pana, or sell products outside Japan like Sony.
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king-james
Joined: Nov 04, 2007
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On this Thursday you can buy Z1 in Sony Store Germany and get Smartwatch 2 for free...
https://www.facebook.com/phot[....]type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
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Latios147
Joined: Jun 24, 2013
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It is unfortunate that Apple was given the priority to launch their phones before the fall collection. This gave a lot of advantage to the iPhone 5S and diverts demand from Japanese domestic firms.
@Shotokan: I would really like Sony to offer a 32GB ROM for the SO-01F.
Vocaloid Hatsune Miku SO-04E (Xperia A) on sale for only 39000 sets. Vocaloid fans would have gobbled up the sets by now. 
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