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ah, tytn II, x1, different phones..........
its a proto. your dissapointed with a proto 
really, just wait until the phone is actually out to see if its laggy or not!
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TyTn2 & X1 share a similar processor(both are by Qualcomm, one is MSM7200 the other is MSM7200A which is 128Mhz faster but the lag is not dpendant on the speed but the implementation of 3D acceleratiron, all this has been covered earlier in this post severaltimes), both are made by HTC. If you understand that much you'd understand why its disappointing. The issue maybe resolved at launch we will have to wait and see.
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@aksd: From your link:
They took care to emphasize that HTC didn't have a large hand in developing the hardware. “We designed it, HTC is just the ODM” was a phrase I heard twice. SE is (rightfully) very proud of this hardware and though they're utilizing HTC to do the manufacturing, they really want to make sure that they get the credit.
HTC hasn't done as much as most people here think they've done. SE has done the hard work with the hardware and software, HTC just manufactures it (thank god). So to compare to an HTC device is wrong in my opinion. 
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I know, read that, but HTC IS the ODM, as far as I know SE have not signed and license agreements with Qualcomm for use of their processors, if thats the case the X1 is using an MSM7200A thorugh the HTC license and at this moment no HTC device runs the 3D drivers. Maybe for the X1 SE have paid HTC who in turn have bought the drivers from Qualcomm, but who can say till the device is actually released.
Everybody thought the TyTn2 was going to be a "multimedia device" which it turned out not as powerful as expected or advertised. Having learnt my lesson I will not believe any manufacturer until benchmarks have been run on the device  .
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Ah right fair enough. Having had no experience with Windows Mobile devices, I don't think I'm really in a position to argue!
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I wouldn't mind betting that without running that glossy (but very nice) Xperia interface, ie: just using Today and the Start Menu to access apps would be a lot quicker 
Seems Xperia really is just a glorified configurable menu front end. That said, I hope it does have the balls to run Xperia well (on release). I can see myself using the Xperia this way: Running today screen as the main screen, but using "Xperia" as a "main menu". The traditional "Main Menu" screens that s60, UIQ and A100/200 all have, is something that WM doesn't have. Xperia provides this. I was pleased to see Xperia is accessible via a hardcoded button, so it would be possible to use the today screen as your active standby, and Xperia as the menu system for accessing stuff.
Also, I'm expect the ease of creating panels (xml, or if you are a programmer c++) will result in many useful third party panel downloads. This will also be good for the SE modding scene
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@max_wedge: Xperia replaces the today screen.
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In the same way SPB shell or point ui replaces the today screen, verysuperfically, you can make sure it does'nt if you want.
You'll have pople asking me now how I know without using the phone, lol, but in WM you can always return to the today screen, it cannot be completely replaced. The panels are more like a launcher than a today screen replacement, they might call it a replacement of the today screen but its not, as soon as you press the end key it should go back to the WM today screen as far as I know, otherwise with a tiny registry edit you can make the WM today screen appear with a touch of the red key.
Max, never thought about modding the panels, but like you said its going to happen, should be fun(If I buy the handset , seems like HTC have a few big launches planned which wil out gun the X1 ). |
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When is this phone going on sale? This year or next?
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I hope the lag is 100% gone when the phone is released, i couldnt go back to a phone with any lag at all. |
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On 2008-04-04 11:35:50, aksd wrote:
In the same way SPB shell or point ui replaces the today screen, verysuperfically, you can make sure it does'nt if you want.
You'll have pople asking me now how I know without using the phone, lol, but in WM you can always return to the today screen, it cannot be completely replaced. The panels are more like a launcher than a today screen replacement, they might call it a replacement of the today screen but its not, as soon as you press the end key it should go back to the WM today screen as far as I know, otherwise with a tiny registry edit you can make the WM today screen appear with a touch of the red key.
Max, never thought about modding the panels, but like you said its going to happen, should be fun(If I buy the handset , seems like HTC have a few big launches planned which wil out gun the X1 ).
Well, SE have said they plan not to restrict access to the panels and they encourage third party additions. But imo even simple xml "hacks" will be possible quite easily. It'll be much like menu.ml modding as we do with SE A100 mobiles.
@Muhammad Oli, yeah, what aksd says  Xperia is not a complete replacement of the Today Screen, it's a shell that runs over the top. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an option to set the Today screen as the active standby screen rather than Xperia. Or the ability to set any panel (and Today can bet set as one of the panels) as the active standby screen.
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@max_wedge: Ah right, I see how its going to work out. I'll leave you guys alone now.
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On 2008-04-04 15:14:21, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
@max_wedge: Ah right, I see how its going to work out. I'll leave you guys alone now.
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The panels look similar to spb screen with plugins. In the yt video, the only plugin that is currently working is the clock . Instead of one customisable standby screen, you now have 9 screens. I wonder what would happen when the plugins on all the 9 panels are loaded up. This may eat up all the 128Mb RAM leaving nothing for other things.
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On 2008-04-04 18:38:25, mib1800 wrote:
The panels look similar to spb screen with plugins. In the yt video, the only plugin that is currently working is the clock . Instead of one customisable standby screen, you now have 9 screens. I wonder what would happen when the plugins on all the 9 panels are loaded up. This may eat up all the 128Mb RAM leaving nothing for other things.
Its nowehere like SPB 2.0 if thats what you mean. Its far more advanced and got hell of a lot more eye candy . With all plugins loaded up it should eat into something like 10-20MB of the 80MB available RAM. My tytn2 has never dropped belo 28MB free RAM with about 12 apps open simultaneously(depends on the apps of course) | |
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