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Xajel
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Posted: 2007-11-29 15:03
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On 2007-11-28 20:52:36, xironghostx wrote:

On 2007-11-28 20:08:13, Xajel wrote:

On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.


or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...

SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad



But i dont thing you could have the right feeling on that kind of display/num-key solution..


Yeh I agree, there's a way

but this will be hard and complicated and expensive to make too

just use regular bottons with small built-in OLED display on each one !!

but as I said, this is very hard to make + expensive + I think there's a patent on it already !!
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Posted: 2007-11-29 15:32
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why go wıth the double slıdıng desıgn shown earlıer? especıally ıf the keyboard slıder has the numbers on ıt as well. you could use those to dıal and close ıt and talk on ıt.. not to mentıon you have a touch screen so could just use ıphone style buttons for call and end call and numbers...
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Posted: 2007-11-29 17:36
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On 2007-11-29 15:03:13, Xajel wrote:

On 2007-11-28 20:52:36, xironghostx wrote:

On 2007-11-28 20:08:13, Xajel wrote:

On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.


or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...

SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad



But i dont thing you could have the right feeling on that kind of display/num-key solution..


Yeh I agree, there's a way

but this will be hard and complicated and expensive to make too

just use regular bottons with small built-in OLED display on each one !!

but as I said, this is very hard to make + expensive + I think there's a patent on it already !!



Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?

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moogoo
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Posted: 2007-11-30 03:01
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Hmm. i don't see the point of having the 2nd slider that's an OLED for a qwerty? or having a tiny keypad with oled keys.

first the oled screen with qwerty. if that's true, then why not just put the soft keypad on the touch screen itself? why have a slide out screen for the keypad? seems to me like a waste of an oled screen, which will just add lots of cost and potential problems to the phone. I'd rather be able to turn the phone landscape and tap out the keys on the main screen.

and for having a tiny key pad with oled keys. again, this will increase the price even more, for really, not a very efficient feature. sure it may be "cool" to look at, but frankly, the keys would probably be difficult to press unless you're poking at it with a stylus. and even then, why not tap on the main screen? and if the keys are small enough for you to feel the difference in keys, then there's no point for oled cause the keys would be too small.

either way, i don't see the point for the 2nd slide out portion. especially if the entire main screen is already touch sensitive. a qwerty keyboard can easily be fit on the main screen and still plenty of room to view what you're typing.

just my $0.02.
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Posted: 2007-12-01 19:16
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On 2007-11-29 08:14:28, kenx3000 wrote:
@ Prom1

I don't really know how Nokia has moved forward. Most of the "good" stuff they put in there phones are nearly all limited to its usage.

I don't really think its fair to compare something that is announced later and compare it to another that's announced way earlier. Let's just see what they both would come up with in Q1 and Q2 since both companies will be announced around the same time.


What exactly does Nokia put in their phones that is "limited to their usuage"?? Surely one can get more usuage out of GPS maps using internal HW, or WiFi for improved internet speeds - even free for those that pay a limited and restrictive data connection.

What isn't fair? Nokia announced the N82 and DELIVERED Production Shipments the SAME DAY! FCC approval was less than 2wks before official announcement, and the N82 was rumored as far back as last December. Spy photos were very accurate. The K850i was announced in January this year, yet took over 9mths to ship it! That is WAY too long in a product lifecycle like.

The P1i is a good example as so many users appreciate this phone but just prefer the N82's styling and design fundamentals.

If you're going to compare "fairness" on the Side of SE .... what do they have to offer the world market (not just Japan's market) in 2008? This threads rumor of a product that has YET to surface any hard details? Particularly priviledge few have stopped posting any hints - as confusing as they may be to us - since I made a post in another thread (about asking for pictures) about how EASY the Top Brass could find who is looking information.
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hgautam
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Posted: 2007-12-01 20:28
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On 2007-12-01 19:16:55, Prom1 wrote:
The K850i was announced in January this year


Ha Ha Ha...

Read this:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]leasedetails/k850z320-20070614

14 June 2007

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kenx3000
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Posted: 2007-12-01 20:35
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@Prom1

You just contradicted yourself.
Xajel
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Posted: 2007-12-01 22:43
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Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?


exactly the same, that's why I said this will be expesive and complicated too, that keyboard costs $1500 !!

TBH, I had that Idia before I heard about maximus and that was several years ago, but Maximus did it
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Posted: 2007-12-01 22:52
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On 2007-12-01 22:43:12, Xajel wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?


exactly the same, that's why I said this will be expesive and complicated too, that keyboard costs $1500 !!

TBH, I had that Idia before I heard about maximus and that was several years ago, but Maximus did it


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Im not trying to be a smartass, but isn't the keyboard called optimus?
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Posted: 2007-12-01 23:56
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On 2007-12-01 20:28:57, hgautam wrote:

On 2007-12-01 19:16:55, Prom1 wrote:
The K850i was announced in January this year


Ha Ha Ha...

Read this:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]leasedetails/k850z320-20070614

14 June 2007

[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2007-12-01 19:31 ]


The first spy-pics came around december january, and that k850 "prototype" had the same look as the one i have in my pocket right now.
And the only major upgrades from k800 is hsdpa and 5mp cam, which shouldn't be too hard to put in a phone..
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Posted: 2007-12-02 03:49
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On 2007-12-01 23:56:46, xironghostx wrote:

And the only major upgrades from k800 is hsdpa and 5mp cam, which shouldn't be too hard to put in a phone..



Yeah, and smaller, and bigger, better screen, microSD support, EDGE, QVGA video recording @ 30 fps, Xenon flash + 3 LED's for video recording, Motion sensor (with UI auto-rotate), new media manager, Media Player 3.0...
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Posted: 2007-12-02 04:00
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On 2007-12-02 03:49:59, JuanPablo wrote:

On 2007-12-01 23:56:46, xironghostx wrote:

And the only major upgrades from k800 is hsdpa and 5mp cam, which shouldn't be too hard to put in a phone..



Yeah, and smaller, and bigger, better screen, microSD support, EDGE, QVGA video recording @ 30 fps, Xenon flash + 3 LED's for video recording, Motion sensor (with UI auto-rotate), new media manager, Media Player 3.0...



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No No No, that's were u'r wrong m8...
T610 -> K850, I'm quite sure they only changed the joystick.
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Posted: 2007-12-02 04:36
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http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/homepage.htm

you all have to wait until February 2008...
Muhammad-Oli
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Posted: 2007-12-02 11:25
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On 2007-12-02 04:00:05, S4k1s wrote:

On 2007-12-02 03:49:59, JuanPablo wrote:

On 2007-12-01 23:56:46, xironghostx wrote:

And the only major upgrades from k800 is hsdpa and 5mp cam, which shouldn't be too hard to put in a phone..



Yeah, and smaller, and bigger, better screen, microSD support, EDGE, QVGA video recording @ 30 fps, Xenon flash + 3 LED's for video recording, Motion sensor (with UI auto-rotate), new media manager, Media Player 3.0...



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No No No, that's were u'r wrong m8...
T610 -> K850, I'm quite sure they only changed the joystick.
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Hahahaha! Nice one man!
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Posted: 2007-12-03 02:28
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is 12th december some real date or did anyone just make it up !
ok let me make up one:

next SE release date is 8th of december 2007

lets all eagerly wait for the 8th
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