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motvikt
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Posted: 2013-07-24 16:29
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If you claim to be an insider you should be able to take some criticism and not cry like a baby when people question you. I was going to say something back in the old 2012-thread with all the crazy rumours about "one sony" (yes same old thing there, people seems to have a short memory) but I didnt. Then I saw the whole thing happen again with honami. Crazy rumours "best of sony" and a lot of crazy fanboys destroying this thread not accepting any criticism, bashing old members just expressing their opinion or doubt.

Esato has always been the source for S(E) rumours and all this bullshit destroys that good reputation and creates a hype for Sony phones that they can never live up to.

Edit. @vikeviki well that was a bit uncalled for. "samsung assholes"? what are you, twelve?
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Posted: 2013-07-24 16:34
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To be brutally honest, I have no idea why Ramu felt offended in the first place. But whatever, its his choice.
Anyway, I think this whole ordeal will be a good reminder that this is a rumour thread, and that for real, concrete information you need to wait till a product is close to launch.
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Posted: 2013-07-24 17:07
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On 2013-07-24 16:23:27, goldenface wrote:
Moving on.

Does anyone have any idea how many other phones have been confirmed for release this year apart from Togari and Honami?



2 more i think.. Honami Mini and another one




lol GUYS this thread has gone completly to hell atm
AbhiD999
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Posted: 2013-07-24 18:26
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On 2013-07-24 16:29:16, motvikt wrote:
If you claim to be an insider you should be able to take some criticism and not cry like a baby when people question you. I was going to say something back in the old 2012-thread with all the crazy rumours about "one sony" (yes same old thing there, people seems to have a short memory) but I didnt. Then I saw the whole thing happen again with honami. Crazy rumours "best of sony" and a lot of crazy fanboys destroying this thread not accepting any criticism, bashing old members just expressing their opinion or doubt.

Esato has always been the source for S(E) rumours and all this bullshit destroys that good reputation and creates a hype for Sony phones that they can never live up to.

Edit. @vikeviki well that was a bit uncalled for. "samsung assholes"? what are you, twelve?
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2013-07-24 15:32 ]


Ramu has never claimed to be insider!!! He always says he has sources who work in sony! i guess you have a short memory...
and btw why there needs to be criticism of a person leaking info ???
those who have proved their worth earlier should be respected rather than being criticized. no one can be 100% accurate, not even KAZ himself. and aside from xenon and sensor size what wrong did ramu tell? He has been more than 95% correct which in turn is a pretty great achievement!!!
sponse
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Posted: 2013-07-24 18:47
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MOVE ON !!

what do you think the IP certification will be? like the z, or the Z ULTRA? (IP57 OR IP58)?
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Posted: 2013-07-24 18:53
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On 2013-07-24 18:47:30, sponse wrote:
MOVE ON !!

what do you think the IP certification will be? like the z, or the Z ULTRA? (IP57 OR IP58)?


IP58.
IP57 would be a step backward
franky900320
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Posted: 2013-07-24 22:21
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I have been silently following this thread the entire year and have really enjoyed reading this thread everyday lol but recently things got a bit hectic in here....people are taking things waaay too seriously. I mean we all (or at least most of us) are here because we are big fans of Sony and appreciate their products so why cant we all just get along and share our thoughts/ideas and rumours regarding our favourite brand Sony.

Anyway a bit more topic related....I hope Honami has same design feature as Z ultra in terms of having ports that are uncovered while still being water and dust proof. I dont mind the flaps covering the ports on my Z but just think it looks pretty nice without the flaps.
Is the only difference between a IP57 and an IP58 rated device is the amount of exposure it can handle????So a device with an IP58 rating can be submerged for longer...or what??
tors
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Posted: 2013-07-24 23:13
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On 2013-07-24 17:07:10, sami92a wrote:

2 more i think.. Honami Mini and another one



I hope the "Mini" will really be a small phone (Ray or SX size) and not just a little bit smaller version of the upcoming Honami.
kewsvnet
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Posted: 2013-07-24 23:58
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i would really like to see sony announce Honami and Honami mini at the same time...kinda like how Motorola announced the Droid Line-up...pretty much same device...in different size and battery spec...people can choose based on their needs
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Posted: 2013-07-25 00:16
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On 2013-07-24 22:21:11, franky900320 wrote:
I have been silently following this thread the entire year and have really enjoyed reading this thread everyday lol but recently things got a bit hectic in here....people are taking things waaay too seriously. I mean we all (or at least most of us) are here because we are big fans of Sony and appreciate their products so why cant we all just get along and share our thoughts/ideas and rumours regarding our favourite brand Sony.

Anyway a bit more topic related....I hope Honami has same design feature as Z ultra in terms of having ports that are uncovered while still being water and dust proof. I dont mind the flaps covering the ports on my Z but just think it looks pretty nice without the flaps.
Is the only difference between a IP57 and an IP58 rated device is the amount of exposure it can handle????So a device with an IP58 rating can be submerged for longer...or what??



with IP57 the device is water resistant and not waterproof, but you can immerse it to 1m for 30 mins.
with IP58 the device will be labeled as completely waterproof and evrey comapny rate how much deepnes and time the device could handle, for example in the case of the xperia ZR/Z ULTRA/XPERIA they can handle a submerge of 1.5 m for 30 min.

the IP58 devices are better protected than ip57 in terms of higher pressures, but both of them are fine to use in the pool for example.
nightwing369
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Posted: 2013-07-25 00:43
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On 2013-07-24 23:58:09, kewsvnet wrote:
i would really like to see sony announce Honami and Honami mini at the same time...kinda like how Motorola announced the Droid Line-up...pretty much same device...in different size and battery spec...people can choose based on their needs
Just like the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10/X10 mini/X10 mini pro.

Does anyone think the Honami will release with Android 4.3, which was officially announced today by Google; right at the phone's release?
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0
HxH
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Posted: 2013-07-25 05:49
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Honami's software platform is developing based on 4.2.2

but few hours after Google introduce Android 4.3, you asking for a phone to release with just a month software?

Shame...
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XperiaCute
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Posted: 2013-07-25 06:10
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Android™ Open Source Project (AOSP) 4.3 now running on Xperia™ Tablet Z



http://developer.sonymobile.c[....]ow-running-on-xperia-tablet-z/
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se_dude
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Posted: 2013-07-25 06:31
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@motvikt and the other guys trolling this thread.

What is your total contribution to the well being of this thread? This is rumour thread, so how many rumours have you managed to put forward that sound plausible?

Right. zero.

I have been here since 2005 and have been a silent visitor in recent times. I have had all SE and Sony flagship since K750 and am currently using the Z. The thread has always been like a homeless guy, someone or the other comes to feed him every now and then, following which, everyone associated with the guy(thread) is happy. That is what happened earlier. Nowadays people have started demanding the truth, something which was never guaranteed and wont ever be.

Randomuser has pretty much got everything spot on about the Xperia Z ultra, from the screen size to the screen to the bloody stylus. No credit. He gets a sensor size wrong and people are on his back. So tell me, if you are an average user how would you know the sensor size of the HTC One or the S4? Yes. You wont know. It is the picture quality that matters.

And there are other around here, like the guy from South Africa, who posts only when there is doom and gloom in the thread or he has a chance to bash Sony. So is it like that in real life? Do you skip glorious events like birthdays and weddings and attend funerals to take the mickey out of the deceased?


@other '"insiders". Using this as a platform to glorify your sources wont isnt exactly the most gentlemanly thing to do.

Anyways, seems like the rumour thread will be dry for some time. The most active insider has been kicked out. Now try bashing Sony because they are not leaking information out or lets start talking about the PS4.
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Felimenta97
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Posted: 2013-07-25 06:46
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On 2013-07-25 06:10:59, XperiaCute wrote:
Android™ Open Source Project (AOSP) 4.3 now running on Xperia™ Tablet Z



http://developer.sonymobile.c[....]ow-running-on-xperia-tablet-z/
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2013-07-25 05:11 ]



That's amazing. They were pretty quick. I doubt anyone else were as quick as them...

@aurelius, @Ambroos, I know the things are rough here, and that I asked this probably a week ago, or a bit more, but any other news on 4.2.2 for Tablet Z? (4.2+ or 4.1.2 button layout, if you saw it) If no, just say it... Sorry for bothering...

@everyone else: I won't get much into this, as a lot has been said already, but as unknown said: Info changes, and developement has many stages. Probably ramu's info was early, and they changed it and he wasn't aware of that. Just it. So chill out, everyone. No need to bash him like those who did.
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