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AbuBasim
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Posted: 2007-08-22 10:46
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The second and final comparison of CMOS vs CCD. Here follows 640x480 crops from 2MP photos, shown at 100 percent scale:

CMOS:


CCD:

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Posted: 2007-08-22 10:57
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On 2007-08-22 10:02:29, bavlondon2 wrote:
Perhaps this new cybershot phone will be UIQ? (must be with that huge screen, or is it just me and the screen isnt that big)

Perhaps it could have wif, GPS although I doubt the latter. I have an n93i right now a a contract to run down a few months before I can go for a k850 so i wouldnt get that till next year anyway. If this new phone is infact real and more specs surface then it could be interesting.


probably UIQ yeah:

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Posted: 2007-08-22 11:10
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abubasim. what type of camera is the CCD pic ?

I DEMAND CCD ON EVERY (future) CYBERSHOOT NOW !!!!!.......he he

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Posted: 2007-08-22 11:12
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AbuBasim, sorry, but there is no way you can compare those shots fairly.
It doesn't matter that you have one CCD and one CMOS, the two cameras themselves are totally different, you'll have one built to a lower standard than the other, so everything including the lens, internal hardware and software processing are different. THe only way you could make a fair comparison would be to have a camera that allowed you to swap the sensor from a CCD to CMOS, and that doesn't exist.

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Posted: 2007-08-22 11:27
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On 2007-08-22 11:12:41, sidneylopsides wrote:
. . .
It doesn't matter that you have one CCD and one CMOS, the two cameras themselves are totally different, you'll have one built to a lower standard than the other, so everything including the lens, internal hardware and software processing are different.
. . .

Do you mean that product comparisons are only valid when comparing products that are almost identical? So then product comparisons ("shootouts") would not be possible. I guess you get annoyed everytime you see this on sites like gsmarena.com where they do this all the time!

Which of the camera phones have been built "to a lower standard" in your opinion? The CMOS photo came from a K750i and the CCD photo came from an i-mobile 902.

Here is an interesting comparison. SE K800, i-mobile 902 and CANON EOS 30D(!). It's in Czech but I think the picture samples tell as much as the text itself. (The 30D is the winner of course, but which one comes second?)

Maybe we should move this to another thread as the topic, thanks to a "troll" (prom1: ) on the previous page, seem to have drifted away from K850i.
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Posted: 2007-08-22 14:14
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On 2007-08-22 10:57:22, xironghostx wrote:

On 2007-08-22 10:02:29, bavlondon2 wrote:
Perhaps this new cybershot phone will be UIQ? (must be with that huge screen, or is it just me and the screen isnt that big)

Perhaps it could have wif, GPS although I doubt the latter. I have an n93i right now a a contract to run down a few months before I can go for a k850 so i wouldnt get that till next year anyway. If this new phone is infact real and more specs surface then it could be interesting.


probably UIQ yeah:




But thats just a generic stratey. Its not related at all directly to this latest leaked phone.
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Posted: 2007-08-24 00:01
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check this out
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cybershot/
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Posted: 2007-08-26 21:11
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the new LG phone looks pretty impressive, with 5.1 mega pixel, manual focus, xenon flash and other stuff.......i might be leaning more towards that now
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Posted: 2007-08-27 13:27
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hey, so this phone is still a ways off, and unfortunately my razr is about to die ... hopefully it can make it, hopefully. is there anyword on FCC approval, or because its a world phone it wont go through the FCC till it makes its US debut?
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Posted: 2007-08-27 14:05
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On 2007-08-26 21:11:07, DonJuan wrote:
the new LG phone looks pretty impressive, with 5.1 mega pixel, manual focus, xenon flash and other stuff.......i might be leaning more towards that now


the only bad thing that LG do is making that phone a manual focus., i'm not sure of it's video because the rumours said that it has 120FPS video recording.,i dont know about the resolution...but still i'm planning to buy k850 if it has megabass
you can always find one if you know where to look

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Posted: 2007-08-27 16:48
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On 2007-08-27 14:05:54, kimot01 wrote:

On 2007-08-26 21:11:07, DonJuan wrote:
the new LG phone looks pretty impressive, with 5.1 mega pixel, manual focus, xenon flash and other stuff.......i might be leaning more towards that now


the only bad thing that LG do is making that phone a manual focus., i'm not sure of it's video because the rumours said that it has 120FPS video recording.,i dont know about the resolution...but still i'm planning to buy k850 if it has megabass



up to 120 FPS in qvga and 30FPS for VGA
you can always find one if you know where to look

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Posted: 2007-08-27 17:55
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On 2007-08-27 14:05:54, kimot01 wrote:

On 2007-08-26 21:11:07, DonJuan wrote:
the new LG phone looks pretty impressive, with 5.1 mega pixel, manual focus, xenon flash and other stuff.......i might be leaning more towards that now


the only bad thing that LG do is making that phone a manual focus., i'm not sure of it's video because the rumours said that it has 120FPS video recording.,i dont know about the resolution...but still i'm planning to buy k850 if it has megabass



It should have megabass since i has the walkman 3.0 player. Otherwise i wouldn´t buy it!

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Posted: 2007-08-27 20:46
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On 2007-08-27 14:05:54, kimot01 wrote:

On 2007-08-26 21:11:07, DonJuan wrote:
the new LG phone looks pretty impressive, with 5.1 mega pixel, manual focus, xenon flash and other stuff.......i might be leaning more towards that now


the only bad thing that LG do is making that phone a manual focus., i'm not sure of it's video because the rumours said that it has 120FPS video recording.,i dont know about the resolution...but still i'm planning to buy k850 if it has megabass



it does have mega bass.

But why is having manual focus as an option a baf feature? thats amazing. A lot of digital cameras dont even have that option.
I think maybe your thinking that auto focus wont be on there. It will but it will also have manual focus
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Posted: 2007-08-27 21:22
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up to 120 FPS in qvga and 30FPS for VGA


Now this is funny, 120fps qvga in phone is simply impossible at the moment. Even good camera 800€ can't make 120fps, it has to have specially deticated chip, man 120 fps is insane, You can slow the time by 4x which is very awesome thing to do
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Posted: 2007-08-28 08:17
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On 2007-08-27 21:22:13, admad wrote:
up to 120 FPS in qvga and 30FPS for VGA


Now this is funny, 120fps qvga in phone is simply impossible at the moment. Even good camera 800€ can't make 120fps, it has to have specially deticated chip, man 120 fps is insane, You can slow the time by 4x which is very awesome thing to do


Well the human eye CAN detect 24fps as being slow - standard theatre movies have used this as a standard for decades. the human brain fills in the gaps with memory of the very last scene so its perceptually smooth.

30fps is what the human eye deems as real-world smooth. HD movie camcorder - the high end that ILM uses is 60fps! High DEF & high end graphics NEED this speed as in 30fps too much graphically in visual special effects is lost.

That said a 120fps in a video phone .... sorry until official specs and manual states it I cannot believe it.
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