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whizkidd
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Posted: 2005-10-14 22:02
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On 2004-04-13 19:55:24, leew347 wrote: i no i aint n there aint n aint gonna b to much good luk for me *coff coff* I have had sum gud luk tho

Man! I'm still trying to decipher what that was all about!
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@joe, Hindus contrary to the popular belief, doesn't worship the cow... Read This before proceeding further.. That article gives a basic idea about hinduism..it also has a section about cows and its reverence by hindus... Can't post long replies..me on phone!
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Posted: 2005-10-14 22:28
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i wouldnt find non of that offensive but there just a few thigns about islam that i dont understand.

1. islam is a MISSIONARY religion like christianity where by you should inform others about islam blah blah but often it has been a case of be a muslim or die.

2. Why do you get the snip, i would like if someone explained.

3. why is the majority of the muslim youth in the UK so corrupt ? i do not see them following any rules of islam. i know some people that are fasting for ramadam but any other day they will be drinking, smoking, eating meat at KFC , having a bank account at halifax etc.

I see sikhism still a MINORITY religion but i would like to see statistics of how many people from different religions still attend the place of worship.

I know of only a handle full of black and white people who are actually following their faith. this is the same with hindus and muslims.

if we have statistics of which religion has the followers attending the place of worship i doubt you will see sikhism as a MINORITY religion.

And if someone thinks im rasict on here, think what you wish. ive seen so much hate against Sikhs by muslims and still see it. People doing these things in the name of the great allah.

Muslims have been torchering Sikhs for many years and i wont let that leave my mind unless we can live together in piece which i dont see at all these days. Maybe in some places but not many.

And please dont paste sctriptures from the Quran. I can do the same from our Holybook.

POW POW !

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Posted: 2005-10-14 22:42
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@whiz
Thanks i'll have a read through that.

@brownlad007
I agree with you on Q3 the muslim youth of today (here in london anyways) have no disregard for anyone but themselves and there "brothers".

And why do Muslims have beef with sikhs?

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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:18
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@Brown,
You are childish.
You're posts bring great offence and not once have I or any other Muslim forum members tried to offend you.
In answer to your foreskin question, it's been answered on this thread.

Now, since you are NOT a Muslim, dont state your opinions as fact.

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1. islam is a MISSIONARY religion like christianity where by you should inform others about islam blah blah but often it has been a case of be a muslim or die.
"

No it's not, I also explained pages back that in Islam we do not force convert, neither do we go door by door and convert.
I know that in Christianity and (if it's done in Islam) people spread the word because they believe that it is the best religion to make a better person and so they want to share their happiness in the religion.

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2. Why do you get the snip, i would like if someone explained.
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Ask the Jews, those who snip it without a religion or read some pages back

"3. why is the majority of the muslim youth in the UK so corrupt ? i do not see them following any rules of islam. i know some people that are fasting for ramadam but any other day they will be drinking, smoking, eating meat at KFC , having a bank account at halifax etc.
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Wow you know the majority!! You must be really popular. If they are drinking and smoking then thats their problem. Some are strict with the religion, some are not. (eating meat at KFC isn't against the religion and as we stated "but you were obviously NOT reading" when there is no alternative then they are allowed to)
When you make such comments you prove ignorance.

Someone said "why do Muslims hate Sikhs" I dont hate Sikhs, but by the way some Sikhs have been attacking Islam and generalizing, you are making me hate your religion. (and I really dont want to generalize.

You attack Islam, and then say lets live in peace. Hypocrit?

Now if I have a religion called Love Brownlad, and population is 1 and that person is a believer, does it mean that religion is not a minority anymore.
Religion is NOT about statistics, it's about faith.

Peterkay posts scriptures for two reasons. First of all they're not random, it's in answer to peoples questions OR to share information about the religion. He wants people to think positive not negative.

Imagine if I went posting ugly pics and a comment like "be a sikh and look like this"

*sighs*

Next time you think of a Muslim, think about Amnesia from the forums.
Am I an Ass? Am I like those 'exceptions' you meet?
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brownlad007
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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:27
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lol.

Non of my questions where answered . Hey i speak the truth and this is the truth mate. take it or dont tought sh*t. im not racist but its fair to say your religion has come under critisism recently.

Dont use the childish card like that when you've got nothing else to say
amnesia
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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:33
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I've got plenty to say "mate".

"Non of my questions where answered "
They were all answered. Just read.

"Hey i speak the truth and this is the truth mate. take it or dont tought sh*t. im not racist but its fair to say your religion has come under critisism recently. "

Again you mistake your opinion for fact.
Of course I wont take it YOU take it.
You are racist, it's like saying the N word and then saying I'm not racist.
If it's been under criticism then why do you have to add to it?

"Dont use the childish card like that when you've got nothing else to say "

If I didn't have anything else to say would I have made that long post would I? Read! READ!

You're seriously making me think that you are not even a true believer yourself.

Not all people are truely devout to their religion, but when it comes to the core they have their own beliefs. Simple as that.

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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:45
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On 2005-10-14 22:28:30, brownlad007 wrote:
i wouldnt find non of that offensive but there just a few thigns about islam that i dont understand.

1. islam is a MISSIONARY religion like christianity where by you should inform others about islam blah blah but often it has been a case of be a muslim or die.

2. Why do you get the snip, i would like if someone explained.

3. why is the majority of the muslim youth in the UK so corrupt ? i do not see them following any rules of islam. i know some people that are fasting for ramadam but any other day they will be drinking, smoking, eating meat at KFC , having a bank account at halifax etc.

I see sikhism still a MINORITY religion but i would like to see statistics of how many people from different religions still attend the place of worship.

I know of only a handle full of black and white people who are actually following their faith. this is the same with hindus and muslims.

if we have statistics of which religion has the followers attending the place of worship i doubt you will see sikhism as a MINORITY religion.

And if someone thinks im rasict on here, think what you wish. ive seen so much hate against Sikhs by muslims and still see it. People doing these things in the name of the great allah.

Muslims have been torchering Sikhs for many years and i wont let that leave my mind unless we can live together in piece which i dont see at all these days. Maybe in some places but not many.

And please dont paste sctriptures from the Quran. I can do the same from our Holybook.

POW POW !

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On 2005-10-14 23:27:59, brownlad007 wrote:
lol.

Non of my questions where answered . Hey i speak the truth and this is the truth mate. take it or dont tought sh*t. im not racist but its fair to say your religion has come under critisism recently.

Dont use the childish card like that when you've got nothing else to say


Hmm i gues you havent herd about the Sickies that Distroyed the the mosque in india but i guess western media has a way of nuffing that down plus so many muslims were merdured by sickies you guys are like the natzies.
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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:48
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lol, were u pop out from ? go home. We got robbed of alot too, but you will never know about that. How about helping your brothers and sisters starving in africa at the moment ?
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Posted: 2005-10-14 23:51
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how 'bout you go home
How do you know he doesn't donate?
There you go again thinking you know stuff you dont.

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On 2005-10-14 23:48:53, brownlad007 wrote:
lol, were u pop out from ? go home. We got robbed of alot too, but you will never know about that. How about helping your brothers and sisters starving in africa at the moment ?



apprently you dont know how much the muslims help people in africa and non african countries and non muslims but africa is a problem that wont be solved with aid rather education. and dont get me started about that.
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On 2005-10-14 22:28:30, brownlad007 wrote:
i wouldnt find non of that offensive but there just a few thigns about islam that i dont understand.

1. islam is a MISSIONARY religion like christianity where by you should inform others about islam blah blah but often it has been a case of be a muslim or die.

2. Why do you get the snip, i would like if someone explained.

3. why is the majority of the muslim youth in the UK so corrupt ? i do not see them following any rules of islam. i know some people that are fasting for ramadam but any other day they will be drinking, smoking, eating meat at KFC , having a bank account at halifax etc.

I see sikhism still a MINORITY religion but i would like to see statistics of how many people from different religions still attend the place of worship.

I know of only a handle full of black and white people who are actually following their faith. this is the same with hindus and muslims.

if we have statistics of which religion has the followers attending the place of worship i doubt you will see sikhism as a MINORITY religion.

And if someone thinks im rasict on here, think what you wish. ive seen so much hate against Sikhs by muslims and still see it. People doing these things in the name of the great allah.

Muslims have been torchering Sikhs for many years and i wont let that leave my mind unless we can live together in piece which i dont see at all these days. Maybe in some places but not many.

And please dont paste sctriptures from the Quran. I can do the same from our Holybook.

POW POW !




Here are the answers:

No1: Missionary religion or not, people all over the world will get to know about Islam thanks to the Western Media today. This topic is to clean up all misconceptions of our pure faith.

No2: The snip, firstly it's not compulsary to do so but it is a Sunnah (teaching of the Holy Prophet pbuh) and that's why most get it done. It has many health benefits too, read on:

Circumcision of newborn boys (i.e., within the first month of life) brings numerous health benefits, including:

a – Protection against local infection in the penis, which may result from the presence of the foreskin, causing tightening of the foreskin, which may lead to retention of urine or infections of the glans (tip) of the penis – which require circumcision in order to treat these problems. In chronic cases, the child may be exposed to numerous diseases in the future, the most serious of which is cancer of the penis.

b – Infections of the urethra. Many studies have proven that uncircumcised boys are more exposed to infection of the urethra. In some studies the rate was 39 times more among uncircumcised boys. In other studies the rate was ten times more. Other studies showed that 95% of children who suffered from infections of the urethra were uncircumcised, whereas the rate among circumcised children did not exceed 5%.

In children, infection of the urethra is serious in some cases. In the study by Wisewell on 88 children who suffered infections of the urethra, in 36 % of them, the same bacteria was found in the blood also. Three of them contracted meningitis, and two suffered renal failure. Two others died as a result of the spread of the micro-organisms throughout the body.

c – Protection against cancer of the penis: the studies agree that cancer of the penis is almost non-existent among circumcised men, whereas the rate among uncircumcised men is not insignificant. In the US the rate of penile cancer among circumcised men is zero, whilst among uncircumcised men it is 2.2 in every 100,000 of the uncircumcised population. As most of the inhabitants of the US are circumcised, the cases of this cancer there are between 750 and 1000 per year. If the population were not circumcised, the number of cases would reach 3000. In countries where boys are not circumcised, such as China, Uganda and Puerto Rico, penile cancer represents between 12-22 % of all cancers found in men; this is a very high percentage.

d – Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Researchers found that the STDs which are transmitted via sexual contact (usually because of fornication/adultery and homosexuality) spread more among those who are not circumcised, especially herpes, soft chancres, syphilis, candida, gonorrhea and genital warts.

There are numerous modern studies which confirm that circumcision reduces the possibility of contracting AIDS when compared to their uncircumcised counterparts. But that does not rule out the possibility of a circumcised man contracting AIDS as the result of sexual contact with a person who has AIDS. Circumcision is not a protection against it, and there is no real way of protecting oneself against the many sexually transmitted diseases apart from avoiding fornication/adultery, promiscuity, homosexuality and other repugnant practices. (From this we can see the wisdom of Islamic sharee’ah in forbidding fornication/adultery and homosexuality).

e – Protection of wives against cervical cancer. Researchers have noted that the wives of circumcised men have less risk of getting cervical cancer than the wives of uncircumcised men.

No3: Muslim Youth Corrupt - Why?, well the simple answer is because they are not following the teachings of Islam and following the devils route. This is the case in many religions not just Islam.

No4: Quotes from The Quran, why should i not post quotes from The Quran? I think you fear the truth brownlad007!! Please do not be afraid of such great words. You may post from your scriptures - who's stopping you? This topic is for all faiths, so do not hesitate. I will post quotes from the final revelation till possible and you may do the same. (if u can be bothered)...

@brownlad007, what you guys did yesterday posting pictures and taking the p**s was very childish and uncalled for. Is that all you guys can think off when you have nothing religious to talk about. You probably thought we would retaliate by doing the same, BUT we are not childish and foolish, Instead i will post a quote from the only scripture that has not changed since the days of revelation

Verse 64 from Chapter 3 states:

Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we at least are Muslims bowing to Allah's Will.
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if muslims are so great, why in 1600s did they kill sikhs and hindus for not converting. it was forced upon people then. the muslim women wore dead sikh babies round their necks as jewellery, men walked round with sikhs heads on their spears. But the sikhs did not give in, they died as martyrs. we suffered a lot back in the day and i dont think islam has changed at all. if allah is so great why didnt he stop the muslims from killing the sikhs and hindus??
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Who fed u all this Bull? Were you there?

This is a misconception unless you can show hard evidence?
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dont call parts of my religion bull, were you there when mohammad wrote the koran?
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