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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011 |
rphilippe
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I would just like a new phone that has got a Xenon flash please! | |
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Phoner
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Mobile-Review Halon preview translated...
8MP
Android 2.3
HD Recording
512MB
led flash
less than 4" screen 480х854
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2011-01-20 00:40 ] |
motvikt
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On 2011-01-20 01:25:48, Phoner wrote:
Mobile-Review Halon preview translated...
8MP
Android 2.3
HD Recording
512MB
led flash
less than 4" screen 480х854
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2011-01-20 00:40 ]
I dont get it? It has the same specs as arc? From what I read it has bravia, exmor, hdmi |
KU
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The design is strange but I like it. 
If eldar like it then it is going to be as good as the vivaz, but SE is a bit silly to release this one with a front facing camera and not the arc. I mean the flagship should be the most advance phone but arc and hallon seems to be equal. 
Well still the MWC is coming for a 2nd half flagship maybe and the last phones to be officialy anounces.  |
ardian
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this is the new strategy of the sony ericsson same specs for lower price. |
KU
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On 2011-01-20 02:18:03, ardian wrote:
this is the new strategy of the sony ericsson same specs for lower price.
but both are going to be shipped at the same time so that's silly, it's not like the arc has dualcore or/and 16mpx full hd, doesn't even have a front facing camera while the cheaper hallon will get one !!! 
Nothing like N8-C7 combo from nokia, and don't forget the xperia play. |
ardian
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i understand u, but most of the peoples dont use video call, and if someone who dont use video call will buy arc because of the design, for those who use video call is the hallon, same specs lower pirce and they will choose  products. the front cam of the hallon will be more than video call... and the hallon is first of many new cell phones with "big" front cam..
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pavlov's_dog
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it's unfair to compare hallon's screen with the galaxy's at such a horrible angle. of course, it would look terrible. |
puestadelsol
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I've just read the Halon review. It's a nice phone, but I wouldn't buy it. For now I have a C901. The C905 is outdated too, but is functionality in a new phone would be sufficient for a best seller. The Vivaz doesn't have Xenon flash, and it has just resistive display. And the Satio -despite the fact that it's price has gone down- has also just a resistive screen, it's a little bit outdated too, it isn't that responsive, but it's specifications would be enogh for a best seller phone.
I know that Sony Ericcson, and all other manufacturers try to compete with the IPhone. They have no chance. The new touchscreen phones try to copy in a way the logic of the user interface of the IPhone, because for now it proved to be the simpliest to use touchscreen phone. Honestly I see that is really easy to handle the IPhone, it has a simple logic, but I don't like it. I don't like that all the functions, applications, and in fact everything is bulk in one place. All the manufacturers are trying to copy this logic, but they would be able invent some smart solutions. If they trying to copy it, not to elaborate something original, they never overtake the Iphone in terms of UI.
On the other hand, the IPhone isn't just a phone, it's a symbol. It's telling: "Look, I (also) have IPhone! I am able to spend 1000 euro for a phone, the only iportant thing is that it have the Apple symbol on it's back, and I don't care about it's functions."
Other manufacturers can increase their phone's prices, but never will achieve the effects of the IPhone.
Sony Ericsson's biggest strenght was that their phones had much better price/value ratio than any of the competitors. For the past 3 years it that's not true. The X10, Arc, even the Hallon are very high end devices. They aren't adressed for mass users, they remind me to the S700 or W900, but at that time the K700 and K750 or W800 were the best sellers.
Many of you are expecting that Google, and Anroid are the only chance for SE to survive. I think that in this domain Samsung does the right job, by releasing the Bada OS. The Sony Ericsson managed to create a simple UI for Symbian with the UIQ, on the top of it would have been the UIQ 3.3, which was released never.
In 2004-2005 the K700 and K750 had a complex, but simple UI. At that time the competitors didn't have any phone with such rich functionality, with such a simple UI at the same time. Ever since SE's proprietary OS's UI didn't change too much. That was a mistake, becuase by the time the competitors took over many ideas from SE's UI.
It's a big mistake that SE haven't tried to create a good touch UI in time. In my opinion they still should think about the creation of a Proprietary OS, because they could create a good, performant pleasant looking UI, which would be easy to use. The personalisation of Andriod is good idea too, but they should implement more features from their previous phones.
Some of you are waiting 16 mp cameraphones... I don't know why. Even a normal digital camera doesn't have, and they even don't need that high resolution.
Just imagine a best seller phone for 250-300 euro, but below 350 euro anyway. It could use Android or whatever, just to have:
-A good, simple, logical and fast UI. With more possibilities of personalisation, and themes.
-A performant file manager (Like in A200 or S60(?) phones). (Maybe better media manager.)
-A good camera with max 8 or 12 MP, and Xenon flash, good picture quality (like the C901), and image stabiliser. HD video recording (or at least VGA with continuous, smooth recording).
-A sharp screen (for that price a 320*480 resolution would be enough)
-A good headset.
-Wifi of course, and some social networking functions (the latter isn't that important).
-Capacitive touchscreen (of course).
-A stunning design, not heavier than 110 g, and not thicker than 15 mm.
I don't know which of the folliwing phones would you choose??? Or rather which of these would be bought by more people???
-This imaginary one for about 300 euro;
-Or the Arc, for 550 euro, which don't have many more features then the letter.
-Or the phone some of you are dreaming of, with 16 MP camera (and probably a low image quality), for a really high price (600+ euro), with not much more useful features compared to that possible best seller, I described.
Sony Ericcson would have to release cheap touchscreen phones (but better than Yendo, however that idea is good). And some "ordinary" but interesnting phones too with some improvements, because they have a good base what to improve.
A C901 (touch or non-touch) succesor, or at least a good cameraphone with Xenon flash... |
avmaxfan
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On 2011-01-19 23:33:50, Ravager wrote:
Nah, Hallon, translates Raspberry is probably the successor of X10 mini. The flagship is Arc, hope I'm wrong. And even if it is, it probably will not have a 16 mp camera, more likely 12, because Sony Ericsson has released a 12 mp phone in japan.
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-01-19 22:45 ]
Yes! The Arc is the flagship for 1H 2011. |
Legen
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On 2011-01-20 01:25:48, Phoner wrote:
Mobile-Review Halon preview translated...
8MP
Android 2.3
HD Recording
512MB
led flash
less than 4" screen 480х854
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2011-01-20 00:40 ]
wow! a positive sonyericsson review from Eldar. hell has frozen over |
avmaxfan
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On 2011-01-20 01:25:48, Phoner wrote:
Mobile-Review Halon preview translated...
8MP EXMOR R
Android 2.3
HD Recording
512MB RAM + 300mb internal
led flash
less than 4" screen 480х854 with BRAVIA engine
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2011-01-20 00:40 ]
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se_dude
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So what exactly is the difference between Hallon and arc? |
smclion102
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On 2011-01-20 06:40:19, se_dude wrote:
So what exactly is the difference between Hallon and arc?
ARC is sexy
HALLON is less sexy  |
Ricky D
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^ as far I can see the difference is the sexy looks and screen size. And MT15i has a big front facing cam.
Everything else is the same, same processor, same screen tech, same camera module..
I'm probably going to buy arc then regret it instantly for not being able to video call through skype or gtalk.
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