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Supa_Fly
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SnoFlake,
SE is not 1/2 Android manufacturers:
SE, HTC, Motorola, Acer, Samsung, etc.
Saka,
Thank you for posting the REAL question of the screen: Capacitive or Resistive (or something new)??
NightBlade,
I'm hoping you're right - but nothing in the White Paper says Capacitive [http://se-blog.com/ says it is, but I want to see it from  directly] I know SE makes a lot of spec mistakes but no manufacturer is worse than Nokia in this regards.
In the White Paper I found this which is odd:
* HTML Email - Yes(Read only) p13 ??
- does this mean I can read html emails but not compose them? Will emails with photos/videos/recordings be attachments not inline?
* HTML 5 (partial support):Browser support
* Adobe Flash is not supported (p.16)
- Now a LOT of people are going to freak out regarding Flash. I for one am VERY happy! If any of you have seen GoogleWave, you'll know its for the better in the long run. iPhone also has HTML 5 support so the web will begin to cater to these mobile devices more efficiently. I'm VERY curious how this will work with HTML emails??
@OfflineR,
DLNA is mentioned in the White Paper 
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Domecot
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It is capacitive guys. Mattias Holm said so. He is a global product PR manager at Sony Ericsson!  |
anonymuser
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I was hopeful for this one, but it really does sound typical of SE already - months away from release (missing Christmas), current hardware in a very poor state, already in need of a big OS update that's far from guaranteed, and almost certain to be considerably less relevant to everyone here by the time it's eventually in the shops.
SE (and the few of its fans still here) still seem to believe that all they have to do to guarantee sales is announce a product, and then just wait for the money to roll in six months later when it's actually on sale - but it just doesn't work that way anymore. This isn't the P800 - a groundbreaking device that went months past deadline but was still unique when it launched - this is Just Another Android Phone, in the same way that the X1 (and now X2) was just another Windows phone, and the Satio just another S60 Touch device - all of these products had plenty of very healthy competition before they were even announced, let alone the many months later when each actually released, by which point - in each case - their specs and design are all significantly less unique or special.
It's easy to announce hardware like this - if everyone else planning a competing device for Q1 2010 had called a press conference yesterday, there'd be a lot less to say about the X10 right now.
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sealover94
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I think there is no need to wait for this phone till spring 2010..
Sonyericsson was preparing this phone for one year and still as we see is on a very early stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytEOOTGtIo
Further more tha lack of multitouch and the 16000 colors make a very bad impression to people (and i'm not reffering to a couple of se-fans here) and there is no excuse for that since there is a 1Ghz cpu inside X10.
Plus no android 2.0 and 8gb of memory make it not better than other phones ALREADY on market... and we have at least 4 months yet to go...missing Christmas!
(i didn't hear any word for the speakers...  .)
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And to everyone beating SeaLover down on the resolution, that's mean. We all LOVE this design's so his eyes may be strained more than the common phone user.
That said I can see where he's coming from.
Just case SE C905 has 262,144 Colour TFT screen that looks fabulous remember this is on a 2.3-2.4" screen. Not a 4" screen. Also note its using a much smaller resolution: QVGA, and NOT WVGA!
So how will colours look on a 4" screen, using resolution: 480x854, and 262,144 Colours?
That GPU will be under-utilized to really show off its potential. What of shaders, gradients, etc that is the hallmark of mobile games lately? IMO 262,144 Colours is great for a 2.2-2.4" QVGA resolution screen for J2ME games. But for a smartphone with such a highly spec'd CPU with hardware video acceleration, hmm. Maybe has something down the pipe in Q1 2010.
PS: Oh and for those that have a bad taste of Symbian in their mouth on Satio ... don't worry Symbian-Foundation is working on better UI - I'll post a Youtube video of a user proposal that was featured @ SEE 2009 in the Satio thread.
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pavlov's_dog
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Im pretty confident that this is not the final performance of the phone so there's NO need to fret. Satio started out really choppy when it first got introduced but it's very smooth right now. |
snoFlake
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@Prom1
SnoFlake,
SE is not 1/2 Android manufacturers:
SE, HTC, Motorola, Acer, Samsung, etc.
errrrrm where do I say this?
I said that Moto are one of two partner companies for Google on Android (HTC being the other) by which I meant muanufacturers and nothing about SE at all. Verizon have been announced as a strategic network partner. |
sealover94
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On 2009-11-03 15:37:07, Prom1 wrote:
And to everyone beating SeaLover down on the resolution, that's mean. We all LOVE this design's so his eyes may be strained more than the common phone user.
That said I can see where he's coming from.
Just case SE C905 has 262,144 Colour TFT screen that looks fabulous remember this is on a 2.3-2.4" screen. Not a 4" screen. Also note its using a much smaller resolution: QVGA, and NOT WVGA!
So how will colours look on a 4" screen, using resolution: 480x854, and 262,144 Colours?
That GPU will be under-utilized to really show off its potential. What of shaders, gradients, etc that is the hallmark of mobile games lately? IMO 262,144 Colours is great for a 2.2-2.4" QVGA resolution screen for J2ME games. But for a smartphone with such a highly spec'd CPU with hardware video acceleration, hmm. Maybe has something down the pipe in Q1 2010.
PS: Oh and for those that have a bad taste of Symbian in their mouth on Satio ... don't worry Symbian-Foundation is working on better UI - I'll post a Youtube video of a user proposal that was featured @ SEE 2009 in the Satio thread.
Thanks @Prom1 !! That's EXCACTLY what i'm tryin to explain to all of us here.If you trust me on photo-art work trust me on this too.I want that phone as much as everyone here but i think i will buy SATIO after today's announcement for the reasons i explained! (i have a w995 and c905 now)
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bider
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I hope, there won't be any more questions about the screen (maybe except colours ). From SE developer world:
XPERIA™ X10 is Sony Ericsson’s first phone on Google’s Android OS platform. XPERIA™ X10 has a 4 inch 854 x 480 pixel screen with a capacitive mineral glass touch-screen, fast 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon™ processor, 1GB internal storage with additional storage via microSD™ card, an 8.1 megapixel camera with autofocus, Wi-Fi 802.11g and HSPA at 7.2Mbps download.
With the power and features of the XPERIA™ X10 and the open software platform, developers have a compelling opportunity to create, share and sell applications.
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]ews/newsnov09/p_xperia_x10.jsp
Unofficial SonyEricssonClub.plT10 -> T65 -> T310 -> T610 -> T630 -> K700 -> P910 -> P990 -> P1i -> Xperia X1 + C702 -> Xperia X10 mini + Xperia X10!!! What can I say... I'm maniac!! |
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@boiing- Pretty easy to say for an apple fanboy which delivers one phone a year and has a cartload of people working thir ass off on a single phone throughout the year.SE has their Android, Symbian and A*** teams to look after. A 2-3 month announcement-release break isnt bad at all.
What about Nokia?Why doesnt anyone bash them?I dont think even HTC releases their phones as quick. |
Supa_Fly
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On 2009-11-03 15:53:32, bider wrote:
I hope, there won't be any more questions about the screen (maybe except colours ). From SE developer world:
XPERIA™ X10 is Sony Ericsson’s first phone on Google’s Android OS platform. XPERIA™ X10 has a 4 inch 854 x 480 pixel screen with a capacitive mineral glass touch-screen, fast 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon™ processor, 1GB internal storage with additional storage via microSD™ card, an 8.1 megapixel camera with autofocus, Wi-Fi 802.11g and HSPA at 7.2Mbps download.
With the power and features of the XPERIA™ X10 and the open software platform, developers have a compelling opportunity to create, share and sell applications.
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]ews/newsnov09/p_xperia_x10.jsp
Great post!
Finally its on their sight. Strange no mention of OpenCL ES 1.1/1.2/2.0?? Hmm.
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Camera videocall yes not¿?¿?¿?¿ 
video demo
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Supa_Fly
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note: I edited the larger part of the paragraph out to highlight what I was referring to - no context lost
On 2009-11-03 14:16:07, snoFlake wrote:
Obviously some of the disappointment here stems from over hyped expectations but guess that's natural in a community such as this. Also must remeber that Moto fundamentally rethought their strategic direction quite some time back 1.5/2 yrs ago and threw all their chips into the Android basket - well it made excellent sense for them given the parlous state they were in, the mess UIQ/Symbian was in and the basket case that is WM. As a result of such a strong commitment to Android they are one of only ywo Google Android partner comapanies in the world (HTC is other of course) and have benefitted from having Google employees assigned to them to assist in the development of thier new range of handsets.
Reading what you posted, SE is not one of only 2/3 Android partners in the world. Samsung already released 3 handsets; equal only to HTC currently. Also partner companies goes beyond manufacturers - it includes providers, chipset makers, etc. So yes you where refering to SE and you where off on stating 1/2+1 "partners". I know what you meant, just highlighting that it was worded wrong as not everyone will be able to infer the same thought you where getting at. Maybe its just me.
However, you ARE right about looking at another iPhone device, and possibly another firmware update with some nice improvements down the pipe. Device should not be out or hyped for another 4-5mths though, Apple still needs to update the pro laptops and high end Mac Pro desktop.
After all the excitement we gotta see what their developer page comes up with. Just remember that Android will be updated and ported over to this unit so its got legs to survive at least 12mths.
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Saka
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Thanks, finally a piece of official info about screen being capacitive. They should really put this info to the white paper. Still, they are pressing real hard on those videos, can't wait to feel how responsive it really is.
One good thing that nobody mentioned so far: looks like we got the front camera. Something that wasn't clear from previous images. |
snoFlake
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Errr glasses mate - look at sentence above (my eyes are going too) 
Also must remeber that Moto fundamentally rethought their strategic direction quite some time back 1.5/2 yrs ago and threw all their chips into the Android basket The whole para is esentially about Moto's Android strategy
In rertrospect should've been more clearly worded as has casued confusion, for which I apologise.
But trivial point anyway main point is Motorola and HTC are Strtegic Partner Co's for Google SE (and the rest Sammie Dell etc) are not | |
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