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Jah
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Posted: 2006-11-13 09:34
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Have been experimenting a bit over the weekend re: sound quality of the W950. After a lot of listening between the P990 and W950 I am now convinced that if you listen to AAC format music (e.g. ripped CD using iTunes) the W950 is so much better that I would seriously recommend you consider the W950 over the P990 if music is a priority. Also the more I use the Walkman s/w the more I like the W950. In my view the W950 is a good and gentle introduction to Smartphones for people who would normally not consider such devices...
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waynep16
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Posted: 2006-11-13 10:37
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im not too impressed with sound on my w950.. it doesnt seem to go very loud. Even if i play with eq and put volume all the way up , using the loudspeaker it doesnt really wow me .. the new nokias have a louder clearer sound by far..
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Jah
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Posted: 2006-11-13 10:41
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@waynep16

there is a difference between quality of sound and volume of sound. If you want volume then the W950 is probably not for you. But with the HPM-85 I can't listen to my W950 beyond 80% volume setting as it is too loud!
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Posted: 2006-11-13 10:57
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On 2006-11-13 10:41:34, Jah wrote:

there is a difference between quality of sound and volume of sound. If you want volume then the W950 is probably not for you. But with the HPM-85 I can't listen to my W950 beyond 80% volume setting as it is too loud!



i understand, and agree, quality is far better and makes up for lack of sound, it sounds nice and not tinny.
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Buttoneer
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Posted: 2006-11-13 17:32
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Problems so far:

Battery life is shocking. I just had a quick 3G surf while the thing was plugged into the PC via USB and watched the battery deteriorate even as it charged. Ouch. I can only imaging how bad it would be with the bluetooth radio switched on and transmitting to a headset. I bet it needs to be charged every other day with only two hours headset use per day.

No RSS feed application in O2 version, at least. It doesn;t appear on the icon for multimedia (top left of main menu) but does appear when you move the cursor to it using the jog wheel. It looks like a bit of customising that has gone a bit wrong.

The headset connection for the supplied unit is a little tempramental. Today I couldn't get it to work consistently at lunchtime even though on the way into work it performed well. It kept on being dedected and not detected. Sounds like a dodgy connection to me.

The appointment alarm is a bit too insistent. It vibrates for ages when a quick text-alert style is what is needed.

I just have no idea how to get album art across to the phone. It's not a biggy, as I wouldn;t use it anyway, but there seems to be no clear way of doing it, and that irritates me because I neeeeeed to know.

I can't change tabs in the menus without touching the screen. I can use the phone one handed to navigate all the way through to watching a video, but if I want to swap between those stored on the phone memory to those in the media memory I need to touch the tab on the screen. Either allow me to do it all one handed or just don't bother. This goes for looking at call history too.

I want to change my front page shortcuts please. I don't want the radio there, for example, I want my email.

I finished the nightclub game already. It's easy peasy.

Some of the built in themes are terrible. One of them, which I quite liked otherwise, uses black text in black input boxes. DUH!

I don't want anyone to think I don't like the phone, I do. I love the fact that it offers to send a text when you reject a call or to set a reminder to call back. I LOVE the sound quality and like Jah says, the volume is ample even for the tube trains. The size and form factor are fantastic considering the huge number of features. I like the fact that it keeps a small menu shortcut on screen even in Java games.

Overall, great phone, but lots of annoying niggles.

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Jah
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Posted: 2006-11-13 17:43
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@Buttoneer

All 3G phones have poor battery life. The W950 battery will not be at its optimum for about 3 weeks.

To change shortcuts use More>Replace

The W950 like the M600 has a touch screen because not all functions can be used via the keyboard

I have already reported that the sound quality is best when used with the HBH-DS970

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Posted: 2006-11-13 18:43
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On 2006-11-13 17:43:10, Jah wrote:
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All 3G phones have poor battery life. The W950 battery will not be at its optimum for about 3 weeks.


But this is at odds with the claimed figures I have seen. 250hrs standby on UMTS. You reckon you could get away with not charging for ten days?
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To change shortcuts use More>Replace


Excellent, thank you!
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On 2006-11-13 17:43:10, Jah wrote:
The W950 like the M600 has a touch screen because not all functions can be used via the keyboard


I appreciate that, but I'd still like to be able to use the phone one handed. the fact that for most things I can get most of the way, but not all the way, irritates me.
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I have already reported that the sound quality is best when used with the HBH-DS970


Great, except that's no good for the radio, nor does it help battery life. I don't have a problem with the sound quality anyway - the provided headset is perfectly adequate and doesn't need to be recharged every other day either.

I did consider buying one of these but overall I find bluetooth headsets more trouble than they are worth, and certainly nowhere near as convenient as the marketing men would have you believe.
Jah
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Posted: 2006-11-13 18:57
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@Buttoneer

I am getting nearly 2 days battery life with about 1.5 hrs of music over BT, phone on all the time and BT on 24hrs over 2 days.

The HPM-85 are the best wired headphones I used with the W950 - very loud!

HBH-DS970 can be used with FM, just plug-in the wired headset to provide the antenna and the music gets transferred to the DS970! And you can use the controls on the DS970 to switch between pre-set stations

How do you find the keyboard? I am getting used to it now after nearly a week.
OfficeMaven
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Posted: 2006-11-13 19:12
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Buttoneer,

As far as the battery life goes, it's great on my W950i. I'm actually suprised by how long it lasts while listining to music using my DS970 stereo bluetooth headset. I think what's putting folks off on the bttery life issue is that the level meter is actually VERY skewed.

The first 50% goes VERY quickly, but the remaining 50% lasts a really LONG time (with the last 10% lasting an AMAZINGLY long time!). Thus, I think folks are just seeing the quick movement of the battery meter in the first half and then making a snap judgment as to the whole thing being that way (when it's not).

Also, for the album art.... I have no idea why, but the silly Disc2Phone application that SE provides you with to add music to the phone doesn't support the addition of album artwork??? This is very strange since both the W850 and the W950 now support the displaying of album artwork.

In order to get album artwork on the phone, you'll need to use a program that will either embed the artwork within the proper ID tag of the song file, or you can simply manually add the artwork as a JPEG image (named "folder.jpg") to the the song's album folder on the phone's media memory. This way the Walkman player will pick up the album art (either embedded within the song files or within the "folder.jpg" image stored in the same folder as the song files on the phone) and display it for you.

Personally, I use iTunes and SyncMyPortable (www.SyncMyPortable.com) to copy all of my songs over to my W950. That way I get all of the proper folder organization set up for me and I get album artwork and M3U play lists as well. I have a new version of SyncMyPortable that I'm just about to release that now fully supports the new downloadable album artwork in iTunes v7 and the absolute paths required by the M3U playlists in the W950. It should be out in a couple of days and will work great with the W950, M600, P990, W850, etc..

I hope this helps some.

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waynep16
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Posted: 2006-11-13 20:32
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@buttoneer

"No RSS feed application in O2 version, at least. It doesn;t appear on the icon for multimedia (top left of main menu) but does appear when you move the cursor to it using the jog wheel. It looks like a bit of customising that has gone a bit wrong. "

That is totally pissing me off too, its a phone feature and one reason why i bought it ... and even tho the icon is there there is no frigin program for rss feeds thats totally shit ! and im so pissed off about it
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Dogmann
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Posted: 2006-11-13 20:52
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Hi all,
IMO opinion what is even stranger re the Disc2phone software is whilst it uses grace note for Album id and track tags as you say it doesn't add the Album art. Yet when using Sonicstage which also uses Gracenote but with this combination it not only gets Album id and track details but Album art also. I can not understand why this should be especially as on the W950 SE shots it shows all the albums with the album covers, why they haven't incorporated this feature on a Walkman phone and expect us to work out your own solution is plain crazy IMO.

@Jah whilst i accept using 3G reduces battery life i think your statement of
"All 3G phones have poor battery life."

and then go to say in your next post

"I am getting nearly 2 days battery life with about 1.5 hrs of music over BT, phone on all the time and BT on 24hrs over 2 days."

I wouldn't say that is terrible and on my 3G phone admittedly with an 1100aMh Li-Polymer battery i have no issues it lasts a day easy even with heavy usage of BT, WiFi, Web browsing, Video and music play, shooting video and stills plus of course some voice calls.

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Jah
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Posted: 2006-11-13 21:54
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3G and battery life.

My wife's 2.5G K750 used to take about 5/6 days from full charged to run down and she left it on 24hrs a day. Her new 3G K800 never lasts more than 4 days. Same person, same usage levels, different phone technology.
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Dogmann
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Posted: 2006-11-13 22:38
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@ Jah,
I accept 3G uses more power not to would make me a fool, but i hardly call 2-4 days even with average usage bad. Especially as i still remember my Motorola 8000s and the 3 batteries i needed to carry to last a day now that was bad battery life. Or the fact that we didn't need gym memberships if we had what was laughably called a transportable, but again here we have everyone's perception of what is acceptable or good being different. Not having a go just have a different opinion on this one.
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Buttoneer
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Posted: 2006-11-14 00:23
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On 2006-11-13 19:12:56, OfficeMaven wrote:

The first 50% goes VERY quickly, but the remaining 50% lasts a really LONG time (with the last 10% lasting an AMAZINGLY long time!). Thus, I think folks are just seeing the quick movement of the battery meter in the first half and then making a snap judgment as to the whole thing being that way (when it's not).



That's useful to know, thank you OM. I'll keep an eye on that.

I had another problem with the phone today. I found that it stopped playing music and required a reboot. Symptoms were that I could flick back and forth between tracks, press play, but nothing happened. No sound. If I then used the stylus to drack the track progress bar halfway along the track, and then pressed play, the time counter would reverse back by one second for each tap of the play button. Very odd behaviour.
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Posted: 2006-11-14 01:21
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On 2006-11-13 17:32:03, Buttoneer wrote:
Problems so far:

Battery life is shocking. I just had a quick 3G surf while the thing was plugged into the PC via USB and watched the battery deteriorate even as it charged. Ouch.



Exact same on my M600i. I wouldnt have expected any different.
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