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corentin
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:09
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Jah, i think stereo BT quality in the tytn is on par with that of the m600i/p990i(or is it Masseur?) and you can play various formats not playable on the SE smartphone(ogg...).As for RAM problems, well there even more blattant on the UIQ3 if you ask me. Maybe it ll be solved in future updates but so far they didn t...
As for comms part i think it s a myth : it s now as good on the Tytn as on symbian smartphones.Again should it not be the case, Masseur please chime in and correct me!
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:15
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@corentin

- music reproduction. Well Sleepyhead lives near me so I will compare with music files I use on my M600. But the quality on the JJ/Exec was so bad I in part blamed Windows Media Player

- call quality and no delay for wake-up from Power Save, well I will wait and check the reviews and the xda developers forum to see what people say

- loss of RAM is an inherent issue with the persistent memory technology used for WM5, not the case with SYmbian. WM5 will build caches as it goes along and these are not released back as RAM as far I remember from reading a blog by a M$ developer



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masseur
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:17
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The JasJar was a poor implementation of WM5 in my opinion and thats why I soon got rid of it.

I do agree with corentins comments and can also say that call quality is improved over the k-jam.

I did try Opera for WM5 but gave it up and still prefer the pocket IE, especially when combnied with the extras that SPB Plus gives such as multiple windows etc
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:18
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For WM5 devices try Pocket Player by www.conduits.com .

Dont worry about changing any of the EQ settings, except for the bass boost.

The piece of software is mind blowing with every type of music.

@jah - try this with your Sennheiser PX-100 and then you will really hear what they can do.
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:21
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@Gavin,

I hope Sleepyhead can install that app and i will try it on the TyTn, but still fear issues around call quality, wake-up delays and poor BT signal strenght
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masseur
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:28
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as I said, call quality is vastly improved of the k-jam, it is no longer tinny and is crystal clear

BT profiles has been a weak point of WM5 phones but I use apps such as resco file explorer (which I would have anyway for its registery editor and better file exploring capabilities) to overcome most of the limitations. But in regards to range, perhaps that was specific to the JasJar as I never had an issue with the k-jam

not asure what you mean about wakeup delays?

what I can say is that I thought the k-jam was fairly responsive, the TyTN just flies! there are no staggers while displaying the icons ni the program window and switching tasks just happens. messaging takes longer to startup first time than most apps but I do have quite a few email accounts in there
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:33
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On 2006-08-11 13:21:19, Jah wrote:
@Gavin,

I hope Sleepyhead can install that app and i will try it on the TyTn, but still fear issues around call quality, wake-up delays and poor BT signal strenght



Fingers crosss the TyTN may be arriving tommorrow morning, but no guarantees as yet. Clove still say they are expecting stock today, but it hadn't arrived when I spoke to them...
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Posted: 2006-08-11 13:53
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I almost bought mine from Clove but they don't do VAT refund scheme which means I can reclaim my VAT as I leave EU for oz.

Expansys do use the VAT refund scheme and subtracting the VAT to be refunded I was still better off with Expansys

I don't use a Ltd company in UK any more... too much paperwork that I am no good at, so I can't reclaim VAT that way. I use an umbrella company instead run by some accountants and they get to do all the paper work!
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Posted: 2006-08-11 14:05
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@masseur

on the JJ if you used the Power Save option then when someone called you they would hear two or three rings before the JJ would alert you to an incoming call. This meant that if you were not quick you could miss the call - this is the 'wake-up' problem.

Also I had problems with my JJ when on a train and switching from GPRS to UMTS etc. It would keep switching hundereds of times, I know as I had a 18 page Vodafone bill that showed all the connections/disconnections etc. This was sorted with a firmware upgrade, but just wondering what the TyTn is like as you move between GPRS/UMTS.

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masseur
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Posted: 2006-08-11 14:11
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ah! I never used the power save mode.

I've used the TyTN on the train yesterday morning/evening and again today (45 minutes each trip including 2 long tunnels) and have only noticed the switching in the same places where the M600 also loses 3G because vodafnoe doesn't have full 3g coverage on my train trip, so in that respect it seems fine so far but I'll pay closer attention (and check my online bill!)
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Posted: 2006-08-11 14:22
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@masseur, the other nasty problem with Power Save on the JJ was that if you had a file open on the SD card and the JJ went into Power Save mode when it re-started there was chance the application would crash - happened to me with the Media Player and M$' Reader app (for ebooks). On the JJ you needed to use Power Save otherwise you' never get a light day of use from a single charge.

Would be interested to hear from other user of the TyTN who do use the Power Save option.
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Posted: 2006-08-11 15:08
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The pressure was too much....and the P990 still looks like a dream...so I've ordered a Voda version TyTN so that I can compare myself what its like against the p990. Its going to be busy here next week...
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corentin
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Posted: 2006-08-11 15:13
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eagerly waiting for your impressions Jah especially since you ve used a previous WM5 device which you didn t like. And of course, the one you d pick between the tytn and the p990i;-)
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Posted: 2006-08-11 15:28
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@Jah, sounds like you feel about the TyTN the same as I feel about the P990... lets hope vodafone havent messed up the TyTN too much...
drgopoos
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Posted: 2006-08-11 16:34
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hi why dont some one give me comparison of p990 with ipaq6900.....
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