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JT
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:04
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Hell yeah 3g is a con
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:06
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On 2005-10-10 19:02:46, Arne Anka wrote:
Your post was too long to read. But I'll check out the Clie to get better understanding for your (or Sonys) idea. A link to a Clie site showing what you mean would be most appreciated.



http://palmare.idnes.cz/PalmO[....]/clie_prislusenstvi020905.html

http://www.planetefortier.com/blog/archive/2004_06_01_default.asp

Of course it would be easy to do without the cable... these things were out at least 4 years ago.

And regarding Sony ceasing Clie production... yes, they did... but because they didn't want to continue with the Palm OS (since they bought into Symbian)... and even if it was because of poor sales... that didn't stop them from cramming the $#!tty Memorystick into the P-series. Originally, the P-series had an SD slot (when it was still under Ericsson)
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:09
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I will only get one if the flip definately comes off as it's so ugly with it on also I don't like the back as it makes it look cheap. So it might be a wm5 phone for me like the xda atom
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:10
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I have used S60, UIQ, Windows Mobile Pocket PC 2003, Windows Mobile Smartphone 2003 and Windows Mobile 5.0 and I have to say that I like S60 the best by far, altough I love the homescreens on WM (which the new S60's also have implemented in a different form and which as I can see in that PDF doc sadly WON'T be implemented in UIQ). I wasn't a big fan of UIQ, but it felt better than WMPPC. WM5.0 on the other hand is a big improvement phonewise. We don't know if UIQ3 will be any good and especially in the beginning. In the video on the Swedish site is seemed so ubelievably slow. I know it has to be tweaked and everything, that's why it's released so late, but still. The P800 wasn't perfect when it got released. So I really hope it will be any good.

But..... buying a WM5.0 phone isn't a option for me anymore and it shouldn't be for any SE lover in here too. I started to realise that specs don't mean sh*t! I've never seen a WM PPC or smartphone which had a high quality in everything (accessoires, callquality, CAMERA!!, etc). I have the MDA Compact, like my friends, and a Orange SPV500 and they both have horrible camera's, bad accessoires, not good phone quality and the OS just doesn't feel right in some way. After buying the W800i I haven't touched my smartphones, cause the quality difference is huge (eventhough I miss my upcoming appointments). The new HTC WM5.0 smartphones are still not all that, eventhough they have great specs on paper (2.0mp, WIFI, etc). Just check the pics taken with the Wizard or Tornado, pure crap. That's why I have my hopes on SE or Nokia (N70 is just amazing). Windows ain't an option in the near future when you got used to quality.
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:19
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Am I the only one who´s concerned about the speed of the device? When you watch the videostream at http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePa[....]MOB_Administratorer805.dbp.asp

the phone seems really slow. It takes quite a while to lanch an app (musicplayer or something). It even takes quite a while to launch the dailerpad! I hope this is just because it´s not finalized yet.
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:19
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i think your correct just what i was getting at specs mean bugger all if they cant deliver.
you can have as many mp as you want but if the pics it produces are crap then its worth nothing
vojta66
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:46
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why does it have stylus on the left hand side...now? and not like pxxx before?
CybriX
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Posted: 2005-10-10 20:59
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Where is the microjack input??
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Posted: 2005-10-10 21:05
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Great phone but this time I'll remove the flip!
EricGerbil
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Posted: 2005-10-10 21:34
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I've seen the pics and specs from the Sony site and I'm mega disappointed. Why, why why is the P990 going to have a built in keyboard and a much smaller screen because of it?

One of the reasons why I love my P900 so much is because the screen is nice and big and you can actually use the screen properly for multimedia and handwriting. What is the point of having an upgraded camera and better internet access / email if you can't see the bloody thing! I would have thought SE would have realised from all the critisism there was when the P910 came out that users DO NOT want a small crappy keyboard. Unless you've got fingers the size of matchsticks it's a complete waste of space, and so much slower than just writing on the screen. I just don't get it.

Also I am very disappointed that SE have decided to give users only 80MB of built in memory. Again, what is the point of having an otherwise really high spec phone, but not enough room on it to store more than a handful of MP3's / decent 2 meg photos / programs??? OK, so you can get an external memory stick if you want, but that'll cost yet MORE money on top, as the 64MB one they are going to supply ain't worth Jack Shit. I was really looking forward to the new P990, and have been patiently waiting for over two years to upgrade my P900 - all for nothing.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm so disappointed I think I'll now go buy an Xda instead.....


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Posted: 2005-10-10 21:49
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no one has been to specific-what is the difference in the screen size compared to the p990?


thankyou for any answers.
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Posted: 2005-10-10 21:56
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On 2005-10-10 20:02:44, pachy wrote:
P990 is now more a Sony product than an ericsson & although i wanted Wi-Fi, that phone is too thick, when i buy a new SE phone i expect to get a "Wow" facter, i dont think the P990 has it. also i also do not buy into 3G because its a con.

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[ This Message was edited by: pachy on 2005-10-10 19:29 ]



i was pissed more than u but now certainly m loving the cell...

take a look at this picture..this is the true one... i saw the live pics... this is wat it looks good and..yes..if u want real fun of this cell... u gotta use it widout flip



imagine widout the flip i think it looks damn good


i was juzz reading the views of the people and its crazy....nokia fans...abusing nokia

look at this:
I'm a nokia fans .. but now i believe P990i is the best. if offers what exactly what i wants . PDA, PHONE, TOUCH SCREEN, WIFI, MP3, 2MP with FLASH AND AUTO FOCUS, VIDEO, BLUETOOTH, SYMBIAN OS, 3G . this is what i want and it has got all ! currently my nokia 6680 and even my awaiting N70 also i won't be buying anymore. It's not worth the money. P990i has got more features and i can go online whenever i go ! it's great !

Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p990-reviews-1318.php

i'v said b4 also...the specs are juzz outstanding...!!!.... amazing..SE..u didnt disappointed me..!!! awsome..i'll definately..look for dis..cell..wont neglect...it..!!!....definately..!!!...

GREAT JOB SONY ERICSSON GREAT JOB
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Posted: 2005-10-10 22:16
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@EricGerbil: The screen is not that much shorter. The screen is a bit shorter but a bit wider thus giving you the illusion that it is much shorter.

Also if you compare it to the p800/p900/p910 you'll see that the space above and beneath the screen top/flip is much smaller -ginving more space for the qwerty without loosing much of the screen area.
Remember that the screen is still 2,8" and got better resolution.
jmcomms
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Posted: 2005-10-10 22:31
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Sorry to disappoint you, but your prediction is wrong. Just wait for the wednesday the 12th and beginning of the next month..



To clarify, Nokia are launching the new N-Gage this week in Barcelona, and then at the start of November it's the Mobility Conference, also in Barcelona, where there will be some new products announced (but not released!) including some new Nseries handsets and the rumoured 9300i (9300 with WiFi).

I don't think there will be any shocking surprises, but Nokia are pretty good at keeping secrets these days, unlike Sony Ericsson. I think the fact that people are more interested in SE products recently, rather than 'yet another Nokia' plays a part in why there are more SE leaks than anything else though! I also think SE help with some of the leaks too, a trick used by other companies for years.

Let's consider that Nokia are rarely first with anything. Why should we expect them to be producing a 4 megapixel cameraphone or something tiny with a HD? The N91 doesn't count, it was more a proof-of-concept than anything else, and I'd be amazed if its ever released in its current guise (too big, slow, no autofocus camera and with the old S60 screen resolution).

Sure, when they adopt something properly, they do it well - and produce it on 101 different variants, but over the years they've always lagged behind other companies. Nokia became too mass market and less interested in being first with everything.

They weren't first with dual band, tri band, proper IrDA data, colour screens and they didn't support Bluetooth for ages, put a memory card slot on their first Series 60 phone or think Communicator users might want GPRS! There are plenty of other examples.

They were (almost) first with things like SMS-MO, data cards and changeable covers, plus they created a whole new high-end premium line that even Motorola with their MicroTAC/StarTAC/V-series couldn't match. They've not always been perfect and have disappointed people time and time again, especially when they had their spell of making ridiculous keypads that made some phones unusable.

Nokia are now getting back on their feet, but let's stop assuming that companies like Sony Ericsson should always watch what the competition are doing. Remember the T39, the R520 and the T68? These all got Nokia on the run. Now the K750 is perhaps one of the most popular handsets on sale today, only beaten by the V3 RAZR (and that's only for its looks). Nokia get the market share by pure volume and the reputation it has for having the best UI..
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Posted: 2005-10-10 22:35
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FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY
P800 - P910i - P1i - and some non-P phones...
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