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unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-07-06 06:27
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On 2013-07-06 06:21:42, razec wrote:

On 2013-07-06 06:13:57, unknownC151A wrote:

On 2013-07-06 04:00:36, Felimenta97 wrote:
Why then all low ends can have a full white front? And X10 was a flagship at its time... Mini Pro was exactly like Arc, spec wise, except for the lower res and smaller screen.
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If you noticed, all Sony high ends have a all black glass, making the screen invisible when turned off. It's not present in Xperia SP, L, U etc.


Maybe you mean flagship? because I remember one high end with a full white front and it was this:





All of 2012 flagships have full black. ZL might be the exception.
Felimenta97
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Posted: 2013-07-06 06:29
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Thus making Ricky D's post untrue, because you CAN have white glass on front and still be a high end phone... And, honestly, I like that way more...
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unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-07-06 06:34
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On 2013-07-06 06:29:38, Felimenta97 wrote:
Thus making Ricky D's post untrue, because you CAN have white glass on front and still be a high end phone... And, honestly, I like that way more...
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2013-07-06 05:30 ]



Can, though extremely unlikely. Like what Ricky mentioned, it's not Sony style. In fact the whole of 2012 phones (of i know of) have full black. Though I'm 100% sure Xperia L, SP, Tipo, Miro, J, U and more doesn't have the invisible screen.
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Posted: 2013-07-06 07:43
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I prefer full black front as well, makes it looks like a mini bravia which I found to be very cool
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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-06 08:45
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I discussed with two Sony employees today at different shops.

All they confirmed is that Honami will not be a z refresh and it will have outstanding camera specs.

There will not be another S800 phone from sony this year, at least in Japan.

Honami will be part of the docomo winter collection, i hope the flagship.
This should mean a release - at least in Japan - in october/november, i need to check when docomo announced the winter collection last year.

The other info i had is related to xperia z ultra. It is currently not planned to release in Japan. Sony is negociating with docomo for a release as part of the docomo autumn collection but no agreement has been reached yet.

Sorry this may be of interest to very few people.
One employee spoke more openly about honami, he was also very excited about it which is good news
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Posted: 2013-07-06 08:49
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shotokan.. how do you know his info was insider info and not just rumor info he found while reading the web, like us? he's just an employee at a sony store, right?
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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-06 09:09
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The short answer is, I do not know.

But this is an info i have not found on japanese rumor forums yet, secondly, two different people at two different places, thirdly one of them does not fit your description above, but please allow me not to tell more.
Edit: it is not Kaz, that I can share safely

Anyway, personally I trust it, it does not mean it is correct, and it is the docomo release, so release in Europe and selected Asian countries can be earlier, i guess they have to deal with different carriers everywhere.

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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-06 09:24
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Ok so a brief look at last year, Docomo collections presentations.

Autumn: August 31, so Xperia z ultra may be announced by docomo arround that date if they agree to include it, I hope they will.

Winter: October 13, so this my expectation for the Japan market release date of Honami in 2013. Honami will be part of this collection, almost certain.
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tyko
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Posted: 2013-07-06 09:58
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Has it been confirmed yet if honami only has led flash. Otherwise there seems to be people here that can shed some light regarding type of flash, for instance stook or unknown13.
JoJotaro
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Posted: 2013-07-06 10:55
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Has the specs and design for Honami all been finalized?

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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-06 11:04
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On 2013-07-06 10:55:54, JoJotaro wrote:
Has the specs and design for Honami all been finalized?

@Shotokan81 Ubuntu!?


That's more like the reaction i was hoping from them
But yeah, ubuntu with touch screen, that sony could brand the way they want, would be both efficient and a good way to differentiate the VAIO.

Back to xperia, I also had a discussion about Ubuntu touch on Xperia. The person said there is already firefox os work underway, but nothing more than we already know. He recognised ubuntu touch would perform faster than android, i just hope there are many people like him in Sony, so we may see high end xperia running ubuntu touch when it is ready.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2013-07-06 13:00
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can a japanese member make a sense of this?google translate says 83million xperia A sold which doesnt make sense

http://www.datacider.com/48326.php
http://www.datacider.com/48315.php
it might be a typo,8.3 million units sold makes sense.
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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-06 13:12
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Hi did not look at it yet but around 830,000 units, will update later if find anything different
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josephnero
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Posted: 2013-07-06 16:16
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winnerzero
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Posted: 2013-07-06 17:23
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After watching a couple z ultra videos on YouTube, I'm in love again....I actually really really want this phone right now n can prob live with the size as long as I have the sbh52 mini handset as well...damn u Sony, u suck for making me want to upgrade my z so fast....I want triluminos on my phone so bad....since i can't afford a new tv...
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