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Legen
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On 2009-12-08 15:19:23, badassmam wrote:
The HTC Bravo is inferior to the X10 but look at the bigger picture, X10 is the only Android and the rest from  will be released much later in 2010. HTC have many products, the Android phones with keyboards are particularly impressive because its making Android more accessible to different markets. Its business at the end of the day. Also, stop bashing HTC. They have a foothold in the market, X10 looks to have quite a fan club but its sales that count. Things can turn ugly very quickly like Satio. Besides, these are the weaker devices from HTC. Watch out for Star and Superstar and the new UI. We should all wait for MWC, X10 will be there but it will be nice to see what the competition are up to. aren't the only company doing high end Android.
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Arent SE planning a kickass device too for MWC? |
Tsepz_GP
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On 2009-12-08 15:19:23, badassmam wrote:
The HTC Bravo is inferior to the X10 but look at the bigger picture, X10 is the only Android and the rest from will be released much later in 2010. HTC have many products, the Android phones with keyboards are particularly impressive because its making Android more accessible to different markets. Its business at the end of the day. Also, stop bashing HTC. They have a foothold in the market, X10 looks to have quite a fan club but its sales that count. Things can turn ugly very quickly like Satio. Besides, these are the weaker devices from HTC. Watch out for Star and Superstar and the new UI. We should all wait for MWC, X10 will be there but it will be nice to see what the competition are up to. aren't the only company doing high end Android.
+1 EXACTLY you'd swear going by some of the comments in this thread that its the best thing out there. On paper the X10 maybe better but in the real world HTC have had plenty experience with Android and the Bravo could offer a far better user experience even if it has inferior internal hardware. HTC Hero vs. Palm Pre and or HTC Hero vs. Satio i think shows that. HTC have done an outstanding job,and SE has some major catching up to do,IMO.
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Nobody's saying that HTC phones are crap. On the other hand, it's funny to see people writing off SE's efforts even before they take off. As for discussing the finer points of the X10 in detail, isn't that what this thread is for? Or am I in the HTC thread by mistake?
Don't get why people are bashing the Satio either. I happen to have one and it's perfectly usable for my productivity AND entertainment needs. Much more so than ANY Android set I can buy today. And Unlike the SE of yore, firmware updates for new products are coming out on a Nokia -like fashion and that's a good thing.
Speaking of Nokia, I can name countless sets by them that needed frequent updates in the first few months after launch to make the devices usable. Of course, a Media circus cannot be created around them like it's done with SE products.
Sad, innit?
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So... that would be an HTC Snapdragon-powered Android phone coming out in January then? Beating the X10 to the punch in at least one major market?
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se_dude
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Engadget is hearing things there. Nothing official. Its only engadget hyping it up. This thing is to be announced in MWC.Lets wait and watch.
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McKinley
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Cut the HTC crap now!!
For the X10, I still want some kind of official press note stating that Android 2.x will find its way to the X10 and not statement from events in Italy and Netherland.
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On 2009-12-08 17:05:06, se_dude wrote:
Engadget is hearing things there. Nothing official. Its only engadget hyping it up. This thing is to be announced in MWC.Lets wait and watch.
Who announced that it was going to be announced at MWC? Haven't we had this conversation before? Sorry, but that in itself is hearsay, and I don't take it as any more official than whatever engadget have heard.
How "official" is the February date for the X10? Isn't that all hearsay and hype too?
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2009-12-08 16:50:55, synn wrote:
Nobody's saying that HTC phones are crap. On the other hand, it's funny to see people writing off SE's efforts even before they take off. As for discussing the finer points of the X10 in detail, isn't that what this thread is for? Or am I in the HTC thread by mistake?
Don't get why people are bashing the Satio either. I happen to have one and it's perfectly usable for my productivity AND entertainment needs. Much more so than ANY Android set I can buy today. And Unlike the SE of yore, firmware updates for new products are coming out on a Nokia -like fashion and that's a good thing.
Speaking of Nokia, I can name countless sets by them that needed frequent updates in the first few months after launch to make the devices usable. Of course, a Media circus cannot be created around them like it's done with SE products.
Sad, innit?
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Not bashing Satio, i did mention the Palm Pre to you know,im simply pointing out that no matter how "state of the art" the hardware is,it boils down to the software, so we cant just simply start saying this is inferior to that. Thought i was being as neutral as one can be around here,guess not. 
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Boinng: Haven't WE had this conversation before?
Hearsay about an announced, existing product that's doing the rounds across the world > Hearsay about vaporware.
Now go start a new thread elsewhere for exhibiting your newfound HTC love and leave this thread alone.
On 2009-12-08 17:28:56, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Thought i was being as neutral as one can be around here,guess not.
That wasn't really aimed at you, man. It was a collective statement. Your'e one of the level headed ones around here.
Still maintain that on a daily basis, the Satio is a more productive device than the hero though.
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@ synn
I rather think that Nokia did (deservedly) get a thorough maulling for the shambles that was the N97 at launch and for the way the susbsequent Firmware updates to address it's multiple issues were handled (dismally).
See Guardian article for mainsteam media and search any Tech Blog/Review Site including such Fan sites as Nokia Users and The Nokia Blog for the slating given out to the N97, even AAS were pretty harsh on it eventually.
So rather than standard "Everyone's down on Sony Ericsson" paranoia consider why this has happened
1) Poor SE quality control for P990, K850 and several other recent handsets and their poor support of their smartphone ranges generally which has caused retailers to be more cautious when dealing with SE phones and possible issues.
2) More importantly still as Smartphones have entered wider/broad market adoption the myriad of faults that some fanbois would accept in an undeveloped market will no longer be tolerated in a wider mature marketplace. Whether some like or can accept it or not Apple have established a new perception of reliability and stability that the public and hence the media are expect in mainstream devices. It is up to other manufacturers either to wait for Apple to trip up or show that they can exceed those standards. Some niche devices that are such obvious works in progress such as the N900 will be given extra latitude because they are so obviously for enthusiasts (I suspaect that Nokia would have prefered the N900 to have been slightly less successful or have received quite so much coverage as they know it's not quite ready for broad adoption).
With the X10 if other manufacturers have got stable Android 2.0 machines in the market SE will have to get their shell applications right first time. The Satio got blasted along with the N97 and to a lesser extent the N97 mini (cos most of the early bugs were addressed) because they didn't work out of the box - it's a new world order. If that is SE want to compete in the mainstream.
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On 2009-12-08 17:31:07, synn wrote:
Hearsay about an announced, existing product that's doing the rounds across the world > Hearsay about vaporware.
From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
Main Entry: vaporware
Pronunciation: \\ˈvā-pər-ˌwer\\
Function: noun
Date: 1984
: a computer-related product that has been widely advertised but has not and may never become available
You do understand that can be equally and easily applied to the X10, right? In fact, the X10's high profile months ahead of any (as yet officially unspecified) release actually makes it far more in keeping with the spirit of the term.
The HTC Passion/Bravo etc has, by contrast, not been heavily advertised or promised to anyone, the news about it has come only through leaks, but then in HTC's case we're talking about an obvious evolution of that company's existing line of Android phones, from manufacturer that already has Snapdragon based hardware on the market. Not quite such an impossible dream, is it?
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 oh,my bad Synn, i apologise. I havent had much experience with a Satio il take your word for it,i was just pointing out that though the Hero has an old ARM11 MSM Qualcomm CPU, it does give devices like Satio with its A8 Cortex a run for their money, thats what impresses me about it. If i had a choice id take Satio anyday, but i realy am impressed by Hero.
X10 is quite a machine, i just hope people arent putting their hopes up for it to be disappointed when its out,it is their 1st Android with a whole new UI etc. . . .makes me nervous,just want to wait and see what happens before i say anything else other than it looks good.
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Snowflake: I get the point you're putting across. But every high profile handset that has been out in the recent times; say the BB Storm, the N97, the Omnia HD, The Pre and Boinng's right arm have all had issues out of the box and were fixed down the line (More or less). But none received the harsh treatment from the press that they reserved for SE products. That's all I'm saying.
For example, the N86 was withdrawn by CPW a few months back just like the Satio (A CPW employee confirmed as much at MR), but nobody mentioned this. What gives?
The HTC Passion/Bravo etc has, by contrast, not been heavily advertised or promised to anyone, the news about it has come only through leaks, but then in HTC's case we're talking about an obvious evolution of that company's existing line of Android phones, from manufacturer that already has Snapdragon based hardware on the market. Not quite such an impossible dream, is it?
Adorable.
Wake me up when your "obvious evolution" gets an official announcement, hands-on videos and a dedicated launch blog by the company itself that gives updates on it on a regular basis. For starters.
Until then, I'll hang on to the "Other" vaporware. You know, the one that the sane ones amongst us have agreed would be in the showrooms soon. Why don't you stop posting in this thread if you have nothing to contribute about it? I'm sure some HTC thread out there is waiting for your precious inputs.
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