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Xajel
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On 2013-07-05 10:51:59, sponse wrote:
On 2013-07-05 10:49:20, McKinley wrote:
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What's your take on Eldar's statement about the driver issue?
For me at least it sounds he could be right.
i thinks he is one BIG BS!
the driver could not be optimized in a second, they will improve it when they will the launch phone, and they will keep on getting better with the updates.
it will not take 9 month to optimize the drivers !! just ignore Eldar he seems like a Troll with a microphone to me..
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The driver thing might be correct, look at Z, they are improving the driver, the last update introduced better IQ to the phone...
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All I want is Honami to be such a trailblazer in the camera department as the Sony Ericsson K750 once was.
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The only reason why the earlier plan of launching the Honami along with Z ultra in July didn't go through is the fact that the camera drivers are unfinished. But the work will be finished by August, just in time for Honami announcement and subsequent launch thereafter. 
So nope, you wouldn't need to wait till mid 2014 to get optimum quality. Sure, there will be IQ improvements with updates in future but what Eldar mentioned is complete BS
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reeflotz
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Personally I don't trust that guy Eldar Murtazin, what he says should be taken with a huge amount of doubt, there are some truths in what he says but is mixed with a lot of his exaggerated opinions and he usually puts down Sony/  products in particular. Well that's my impression when I read some reviews at mobile review in which he is the Editor-in-Chief.
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Eldar is a Sammsung fanboy, and as with all fanboys tries to trash other companies products and hide the flaws Sammsung's products have! Being a fan is okay, but a fanboy is blindness and stupidity at their extremest levels! |
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okay before the thread derails again I wanted to ask something, will gaikai service also come to Honami?
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The ONLY reason? I don't think so.
Also, Eldar is probably right. It's been like that for all Sony phones for as long as I can remember.
The camera drivers are improved in subsequent updates, to me that says they aren't at their best at launch.
If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?
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razec
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On 2013-07-05 12:52:03, Ricky D wrote:
If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?
That happened before with Canon 5D MkII (pixel dark spots) and Canon issued an update a couple of months later. during the wait, Photographers who happened to be pixel peepers consider their cameras as defective even though the issue only shows up on a certain situation. but I do hope Sony launches Honami with stable camera drivers, it would be disappointing to see a camera centric device with bleeding edge hardware to fail just because of poor efforts on the programming side.
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reeflotz
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well, that happened in the Z that at first picture quality was kind of mediocre and that the firmware update improved it significantly. But if one of Honami's selling point would be it's camera I think it's safe to assume that we will get picture quality of at least Z with updated firmware or way better, I don't think it will be as what eldar puts it, "mediocre" as Honami is at least going to be a camera centric phone. Like I said in the previous posts he usually tends to exaggerate, although of course we all still don't know until we finally see samples ourselves.
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On 2013-07-05 13:06:54, razec wrote:
On 2013-07-05 12:52:03, Ricky D wrote:
If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?
That happened before with Canon 5D MkII (pixel dark spots) and Canon issued an update a couple of months later. during the wait, Photographers who happened to be pixel peepers consider their cameras as defective even though the issue only shows up on a certain situation. but I do hope Sony launches Honami with stable camera drivers, it would be disappointing to see a camera centric device with bleeding edge hardware to fail just because of poor efforts on the programming side.
But it doesn't happen with every release like it has been with Sony phones for a long time. Admittedly phone FWs are more complex to handle than my given example, but the point stands that the thing should work as well it can right out of the box instead of early adopters being guinea pigs or beta testers.
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stook
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Sensor could be big but lens is still small (ca 2mm). So the sensor cannot get the same light as in compact cameras |
Shotokan81
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If Honami has a F2 lens, then the quantity of light that enters is driven by this apperture number, not the diameter of the lens right?
Maybe the angle of view is small?
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JoJotaro
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With F2.0 aperture we can expect to achieve photos with a low depth of field... Field of view isn't affected by aperture... |
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Sony now nowhere with Gaikai...But they will implement playing games in mobile. Also the PS4 Codes (sdk?) are not good either...
But they have till Nov to Fix it....
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razec
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On 2013-07-05 14:20:46, JoJotaro wrote:
With F2.0 aperture we can expect to achieve photos with a low depth of field... Field of view isn't affected by aperture...
Sensor size also plays a role. Honami's sensor + F2 lens will produce better bokeh than HTC One sensor with F2. wait Honami also uses G lens so the advantage may be even greater so...
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