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Ricky D
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Posted: 2013-07-04 14:42
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@badassmam
I think there is also suggestion the attachments may be magnetic.
And the mediatek chipset wouldn't necessarily be a China only handset, but a 'low-end' handset. Could end up as a regional or network version of a handset though, I think China Mobile had a slightly different version of Xperia V, and other manufacturers have done similar things, buy splitting chipsets to different regions.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2013-07-04 14:52
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also octa-core mediatek will have simmilar performance to snapdragon600.so its kinda upper range.it scores around 30000 in antutu
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badassmam
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Posted: 2013-07-04 14:56
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Thanks for answering. If it is a magnetic attachment, the back of the phone would need some sort of ridge or slot so that it doesn't move out of place therefore the back should be more like the description from Maia. Also, the camera placement is important because if the attachment is heavy and the camera is in the corner it would be awkward to hold so again, the camera in the middle could be easier to use with the attachment.

So an octa-core chip in low end handsets, that sounds pretty cool and should replace the current dual core like in the SP.
Ricky D
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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:07
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The position holder would only need to be as much as the silver ring/rim is on the Z now, or perhaps a tiny bit more raised. I don't think these add-ons will be huge or heavy. I think also, the camera will be in the corner so they can maintain the thin-ness of the handset by having nothing else where the camera is (i.e. not having it behind the screen or any other hardware parts).
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DexterMoser
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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:13
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On 2013-07-04 14:17:18, McKinley wrote:
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Qualcomm, it's time to step up your development unless you want to see Intel inside in mobile devices in a near future.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2013-07-04 13:21 ]


There is already Intel inside mobile devices, and they're really fast and durable.
E.g. the european Motorola Razr I, and some Indian only Lenovo mobile, "just" with 2GHz singlecore.
Intel has the know-how, they just didn't care about the mobile sector befor a couple of years.
My guess is Qualcomm will be outclassed, believe it or not, they have no chance in the near future, IF Intel concentrates on the mobile sector evenr more than now.

And @"iPhone vs Honami same release time":
If Honami has quite all the specs that are discussed/leaked/confirmed here, than I see no point in buying the new iPhone other than having a small mobile phone. But here should the upcoming Xperia Ray 3 and/or Honami Mini beat the iPhone, too.

@badassmam:
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I think it was suggested that there is a metal ring around the lens on the backside, therefore a magnetic lens should be easily attached there without any furhter "ridge or slot".
Or maybe the magnet charger-dock fixes the lens in place?!

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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:23
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Intel chips have always been great at Antutu, but sadly Antutu isn't the only or the most important Android benchmark. Intel chips perform much worse than the best Qualcomm chips in all other benches.
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semo
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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:31
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I just listened to the podcast of Eldar Murtazin and there is not much to add but I will summarize it in short.
EM is complaining about the size of 6.44 inch XU at the same time saying the Samsungs Mega 6.3 inch can be considered comfortable (prejudice IMO)
Then he mentions that the new 20 megapixel phone from Sony is supposed to be available in September.
He says that he spoke with a product manager at Sony who told him that the new sensor will be exclusive to Sony in the beginning and other producers will come with it only in Spring 2014.
The product manager also said (according to EM again) that the drivers are not optimized yet and should be finalized only 1/2 year after release.
EM's speculation is that because of this the quality of pictures will be mediocre in the beginning compared to other photo oriented phones.
He gives an example with Galaxy S4 which uses an older sensor but makes better pics than Xperia Z.
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kurtdean
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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:55
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On 2013-07-04 15:31:51, semo wrote:
I just listened to the podcast of Eldar Murtazin and there is not much to add but I will summarize it in short.
EM is complaining about the size of 6.44 inch XU at the same time saying the Samsungs Mega 6.3 inch can be considered comfortable (prejudice IMO)
Then he mentions that the new 20 megapixel phone from Sony is supposed to be available in September.
He says that he spoke with a product manager at Sony who told him that the new sensor will be exclusive to Sony in the beginning and other producers will come with it only in Spring 2014.
The product manager also said (according to EM again) that the drivers are not optimized yet and should be finalized only 1/2 year after release.
EM's speculation is that because of this the quality of pictures will be mediocre in the beginning compared to other photo oriented phones.
He gives an example with Galaxy S4 which uses an older sensor but makes better pics than Xperia Z.
[ This Message was edited by: semo on 2013-07-04 14:33 ]



Is he trolling? Samsung fanboy much? GS4 uses the same camera sensor as the Z!
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Posted: 2013-07-04 15:59
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On 2013-07-04 15:23:47, randomuser wrote:
Intel chips have always been great at Antutu, but sadly Antutu isn't the only or the most important Android benchmark. Intel chips perform much worse than the best Qualcomm chips in all other benches.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-07-04 14:25 ]


then what is the most important Android benchmark? Quadrant?
(WOW page 900. I think we reach 1500 before Honami )
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:02
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Eldar is pro Samsung right??


'Nuff said!!
randomuser
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:06
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ArsenalFan, it's not about most important but consistently top results in all benchmarks. Sadly Intel fails at that.
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:18
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On 2013-07-04 15:59:38, ArsenalFan wrote:

On 2013-07-04 15:23:47, randomuser wrote:
Intel chips have always been great at Antutu, but sadly Antutu isn't the only or the most important Android benchmark. Intel chips perform much worse than the best Qualcomm chips in all other benches.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-07-04 14:25 ]


then what is the most important Android benchmark? Quadrant?
(WOW page 900. I think we reach 1500 before Honami )
[ This Message was edited by: ArsenalFan on 2013-07-04 15:06 ]



You're wrong! this is the 900th page
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:21
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On 2013-07-04 15:55:08, kurtdean wrote:

On 2013-07-04 15:31:51, semo wrote:
I just listened to the podcast of Eldar Murtazin and there is not much to add but I will summarize it in short.
EM is complaining about the size of 6.44 inch XU at the same time saying the Samsungs Mega 6.3 inch can be considered comfortable (prejudice IMO)
Then he mentions that the new 20 megapixel phone from Sony is supposed to be available in September.
He says that he spoke with a product manager at Sony who told him that the new sensor will be exclusive to Sony in the beginning and other producers will come with it only in Spring 2014.
The product manager also said (according to EM again) that the drivers are not optimized yet and should be finalized only 1/2 year after release.
EM's speculation is that because of this the quality of pictures will be mediocre in the beginning compared to other photo oriented phones.
He gives an example with Galaxy S4 which uses an older sensor but makes better pics than Xperia Z.
[ This Message was edited by: semo on 2013-07-04 14:33 ]



Is he trolling? Samsung fanboy much? GS4 uses the same camera sensor as the Z!


Depends which GS4 you're talking about.
The I9500 Exynos Octa has a Exmor RS
The I9505 S600 has a Exmor R.
Don't know which Z uses.
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Shotokan81
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:29
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Question: is this Eldar guy info generally genuine?

Because it sounds to go against the one sony objectives.

What happened to past phones, assuming true, may not reproduce because it is the same guys doing the rx100 II and honami camera, so they know how to make the software to go with the sensor by the launch date...
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-04 15:30 ]
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kurtdean
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Posted: 2013-07-04 16:32
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On 2013-07-04 16:29:47, Shotokan81 wrote:
Question: is this Eldar guy info generally genuine?

Because it sounds to go against the one sony objectives.

What happened to past phones, assuming true, may not reproduce because it is the same guys doing the rx100 II and honami camera, so they know how to make the software to go with the sensor by the launch date...
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-04 15:30 ]



Yea that's true. Past phone camera like Xperia Z was developed by sony mobile and not sony camera division. Honami camera will be develop by sony camera division
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-07-04 15:34 ]
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