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djsquare
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Posted: 2009-03-19 14:25
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I think some of them are fake pictues as I myself using C902 just bought few days back and updated to R3d and the images are so dissopinting..Belive me even in day light there is noise on darker parts of the photo and even the snaps are all over sharp which looks very horrible when u see it full screen....I will soon upload the real pics taken from c902..

But even agree that the new firmware pics are better then the older whhich is R3E and I feel the noise has reduced in the firmware , though the snaps are not upto my expectations...

Soory no offence to any1 or not trying to hurt anybodys feeling...coz from your pics someone whould simply buy the wrong phone like me.... Evevn I saw some of the pics on esato and was impressed and ended up wasting my money on C902...New buyers plz dont come under the impression from pics uploaded on 1 site ..Try searching other sites as well and conclude from all the sites...
[ This Message was edited by: djsquare on 2009-03-19 13:28 ]
plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-03-19 15:34
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i can insure you, that (at least) mine pics is 100% original. (and im pretty sure most everyone else is to)

2 tips.
IF you using some kind of 3rd software, you see it right away on the exif data. (it says ACD, Adobe photo shop, etc. instead of R3EA037)

IF you use photo DJ the picture grows directly to ~2 MB in size.....
a 100% original c902 (1944 x 2592) picture is around ~1.3 MB in size....


some other tips is:
proper light and proper angle..... (this tips is for free my man )

if thats not works, replace your c902, this camera should blow you away in good weather...thats for sure
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 16:42 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-19 15:47
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On 2009-03-19 14:25:39, djsquare wrote:
New buyers plz dont come under the impression from pics uploaded on 1 site ..Try searching other sites as well and conclude from all the sites...
[ This Message was edited by: djsquare on 2009-03-19 13:28 ]



Can you put the links to those sites to compare please?
AbuBasim
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Posted: 2009-03-19 15:58
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On 2009-03-19 14:25:39, djsquare wrote:
I think some of them are fake pictues as I myself using C902 just bought few days back and updated to R3d and the images are so dissopinting..Belive me even in day light there is noise on darker parts of the photo and even the snaps are all over sharp which looks very horrible when u see it full screen

You are not supposed to look at CMOS camphone shots at full size.
plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-03-19 17:11
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thats not really true ABU.
a good balanced and right optimized firmware do BIG changes......(think its superb full size quality right now)

http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902

(besides, there is many cmos camera with awesome quality. Canon EOS, etc, etc)
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lower your EV is also a good tip, if you have very bright weather.

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 16:47 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-19 17:35
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On 2009-03-19 14:02:19, plankgatan wrote:
welcome back Borg

I mean welcome back to your K902....(yeh, i think SE should kept "K" as Kamera. (the "C" looks unstylish)

try some macro with this latest firmware, its really something
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 13:07 ]



Thanks

I have to start taking pics again

I agree with the "K" also
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AbuBasim
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Posted: 2009-03-19 17:43
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On 2009-03-19 17:11:04, plankgatan wrote:
thats not true at all ABU.
a good balanced and right optimized firmware do BIG changes......(think its superb full size quality right now)

http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]&make=sony+ericsson&model=c902

Still quite noisy to me. Looks better scaled down.

(besides, there is many cmos camera with awesome quality. Canon EOS, etc, etc)

I wasn't talking about cameras. I said CMOS camphone.
plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-03-19 18:00
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edit...............

first of all.. every pictures looks better scaled down. (even my girlfriend Hasselblad camera

Noise is slightly more in c902/k800 yes, BUT its not that much.

besides, if you compare c902/k800 cmos sensor against i-mobile902 CCD sensor, their colours and details is way better.
(so cmos have some advantages yes ?)


if you think this have to much noise, i guess you are blind. its barley NO noise in this lowlight shot.
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewfullsize.php?id=18353
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 17:30 ]
AbuBasim
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Posted: 2009-03-19 18:30
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Update: plankis was quick to edit his first (honest?) reply...


On 2009-03-19 18:00:22, plankgatan wrote:
its barley NO noise in this lowlight shot.
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewfullsize.php?id=18353

This talk started with djsquare complaining that full size photos look bad. Shall I post a crop of your photo where there are plenty of noise? Where there is less noise is where the noise reduction has removed it - together with some detail.



besides, if you compare c902/k800 cmos sensor against i-mobile902 CCD sensor, their colours and details is way better.
(so cmos have some advantages yes ?)

Better colors, yes, I can agree with that, but definitely not better details.
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2009-03-19 17:36 ]
plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-03-19 18:40
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you silly man. (yeh, i read what you sad)

take a look again...... the picture have VERY low noise for such lowlight picture.
(sad you cant admit when everyone else see it)
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewfullsize.php?id=18353

whatever.......
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 17:44 ]
AbuBasim
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Posted: 2009-03-19 18:47
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On 2009-03-19 18:40:35, plankgatan wrote:
you silly man.

take a look again...... the picture have VERY low noise for such lowlight picture. (sad you cant admit when everyone else see it)
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewfullsize.php?id=18353

Everyone else?

Are we talking about this photo?


Looks better at your favorite 1:3 scale doesn't it?

[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2009-03-19 17:55 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-19 19:03
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there is small amount of noise only because of direct light fro lights to sensor, everything is underexposed
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Posted: 2009-03-19 19:28
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Plank
what camera version number R3EA037 have?
plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-03-19 21:33
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its HUGE improvement on the quality, noise have been reduced very good and colours is still VERY vibrant and clear....(everyone who HAVE c902 knows it)

and please, indoor with i-mobile902 CCD is no beauty. (first of all i havent seen many pics taken over iso.50 with i-mobile902...why ????
(well i know, it looks crap), its nothing hard to get sharp lowlight pics in iso.50, just hold your camera damn still and there you go.

indoor CCD (i-mobile902)..think we can stop nagging that cmos looks little noisy in full size...this looks worse.
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]make=samart&model=i-mobile+902

100% crop...iso.50 (as usual


(yeh, i know its a old phone), but please, stop saying cmos is worse then this ccd-crap......when it comes a CCD cellphone who is near SE colours and everything, THEN say - "this cmos is really behind"...until then, zip it.


@Raederski, i can look it up...i get back to you with the information
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(really strange, i change EV, but it says the same ?) still darker and lighter)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-19 21:41 ]
AbuBasim
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Posted: 2009-03-19 22:34
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On 2009-03-19 21:33:06, plankgatan wrote:
and please, indoor with i-mobile902 CCD is no beauty. (first of all i havent seen many pics taken over iso.50 with i-mobile902...why ????
(well, i know, it looks crap), thats why we always see all night pics taken in iso.50...its CCD sensor destroy everything over iso.200-300). its nothing hard to get sharp night pics in iso.50, just hold your camera damn still and there you go.

How you managed to twist this discussion away from the noise in C902 into i-mobile 902 bashing. Very cunning way of deflecting the topic, huh?


indoor CCD (i-mobile902)....so please stop this nag that c902 looks little little noisy in full size...this looks way worse.
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]make=samart&model=i-mobile+902
100% crop...iso.50 (as usually),


The above photo is a macro shot with the center in focus. You cropped the part where it isn't in focus. The center looks like this:



i-mobile902 CCD sensor produce VERY very DULL picture, (landscape, portait have horrible colours and very weak contrast, etc)

More of the same. Looks like you just copied and pasted one of your old i-mobile 902 bashing posts.


(yeh, i know its a old phone), but please stop compare cmos pics with this ccd-crap

Did I compare? YOU did! You always bring in the i-mobile 902 into any discussion where the topic on noise in C902 come up. First you're defending your camphone showing off some underexposed low light shots claiming these to have little noise. Then when I show you that there is still noise you throw a hissy fit bashing my old phone instead.

Good old plankgatan. He hasn't changed a bit since he last long ban. It's nice to see that some things remain the same in these troubled times.
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