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katamari201
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Don't be so quick to call winners and losers based on pure speculation and fanboy fantasies. You can search back and see the same shit over and over again for the Xperia Arc, S, Z, and now Honami. And OMG the X10. Fanboys screaming how revolutionary said phone was going to be and living outside of reality. Now its a ball pen where everyone is swimming in marketing terms and gimmicks. Even with all Sony's FANTASTIC releases (snark), their phone presence still barely manages to make a blip in the smartphone space. Apple, Samsung, LG, and HTC still handily beat it in sales and consumer mindshare.
Getting excited about Snapdragon 800 is like getting excited about Generic X flagship phone for 2H 2013. In fact, the Galaxy S4 in Korea already has it, with LTE-Advance to boot. You know, an actual available phone. All other flagships will have it. There's no release date for Honami, so it could very well be one of the last ones to even get the new qualcomm chip. Being first to market also means absolutely squat if everything else is executed terribly. The LG G2x was the first dual-core phone. It was also hit with a class action lawsuit for sucking in general. First 13MP camera? Super sucky. (Almost) first 1080p 5" display? Super duper sucktastic. I think you guys know which one that is.
If the renders and spyshots are correct, and the system dump says its a 20MP sensor, it's very questionable how large the sensor will actually be since it is shifted to the top left extreme and barely has any space. A very iPhone design in fact. Who knows if it will even be 1/1.6". Optical image stabilization also takes space. The good ones need even more space. And even with fancy new imaging algorithms, will you have to use burst mode to even get a decent shot? You normally don't have to ask this question when it comes to other companies. NO one else has this problem. But Sony is special. Consistency is not their forte when it comes to smartphones. The screens however, are consistently bad. Even the ZUltra is hideous.
Is Sony trying to do too much at once? New design, new UI, new specs, new camera, new software integration, water/dust proof. I don't want it to be a total mess when it comes out, with manufacturing issues and bugs galore that are still not rectified even after six months. Sony's track record in the smartphone space, to reiterate, has been very poor. The Nokia EOS at least has no surprises, and they are tweaking what has basically already been released a year ago. The 41MP is proven already and its just a matter of porting the software from Symbian and optimizing. The rest of the phone is a boring ass Lumia 920 from yesteryear. They've had plenty of time and aren't working from scratch. Even with Windows Phone, it might be a more compelling package than whatever Sony is trying to stew up in their cauldron. Of course, I say the complete opposite to Nokia fanboys at MyNokiaBlog. It it weren't for the pointless strife, fanboy groups could find a common thread of companionship in how universally obnoxious they are.
For me, it comes down to the pictures and the screen. I don't really care much about the body anymore. 20MP and yada yada yada. I've seen it all before. If the camera ain't much better than what the Note 3 can produce, and Sony sticks with the same terrible screen trend of theirs, the Note 3 will be my next phone and not Xperia anything. In fact, the camera has to be significantly better, as I far prefer the newest AMOLED screens, which are even more color accurate than all the other IPS screens available on a phone. And Sony is still stuck with that ugly, hazy launcher with thin text and faux elegance. | |
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moogoo
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the troll strikes again! 
stating facts that are untrue of course. the refreshed Galaxy S4 in korea is not available. it was just announced and won't be available til late summer.
seriously.. why do you bother coming here? do you really get off on bashing Sony while making up "facts" to buttress your arguments? laughable!
As sony fans we speculate and fantasize when rumors come out. but that is true of any brand's fanboys.
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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stedus
Joined: Aug 15, 2012
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Ignore the troll Moogoo
Anyway, there are lots of camera features for Honami
No wonder, there are some speculations that the Camera app will be named as Cypershot  )
So Honami will have X Reality Chip (for Screen) like Z Ultra, Bionz Chip for Camera and the MX Chip for 5.1 audio ?? 
this will be the best Sony device that I've waiting for
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CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
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On 2013-07-01 11:44:57, katamari201 wrote:
Don't be so quick to call winners and losers based on pure speculation and fanboy fantasies. You can search back and see the same shit over and over again for the Xperia Arc, S, Z, and now Honami. And OMG the X10. Fanboys screaming how revolutionary said phone was going to be and living outside of reality. Now its a ball pen where everyone is swimming in marketing terms and gimmicks. Even with all Sony's FANTASTIC releases (snark), their phone presence still barely manages to make a blip in the smartphone space. Apple, Samsung, LG, and HTC still handily beat it in sales and consumer mindshare. IF THIS IS NOT A FANBOYISH STATEMENT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS
Getting excited about Snapdragon 800 is like getting excited about Generic X flagship phone for 2H 2013. In fact, the Galaxy S4 in Korea already has it, with LTE-Advance to boot. You know, an actual available phone. All other flagships will have it. There's no release date for Honami, so it could very well be one of the last ones to even get the new qualcomm chip. Being first to market also means absolutely squat if everything else is executed terribly. The LG G2x was the first dual-core phone. It was also hit with a class action lawsuit for sucking in general. First 13MP camera? Super sucky. (Almost) first 1080p 5" display? Super duper sucktastic. I think you guys know which one that is.
STILL I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE XPERIA Z SCREEN IS SO TERRIBLE... SURELY THE HTC ONE IT'S BETTER HANDS DOWN, BUT THE S4 IMHO NOT... I CAN'T STAND AMOLED COLOURS
If the renders and spyshots are correct, and the system dump says its a 20MP sensor, it's very questionable how large the sensor will actually be since it is shifted to the top left extreme and barely has any space. A very iPhone design in fact. Who knows if it will even be 1/1.6". Optical image stabilization also takes space. The good ones need even more space. And even with fancy new imaging algorithms, will you have to use burst mode to even get a decent shot? You normally don't have to ask this question when it comes to other companies. NO one else has this problem. But Sony is special. Consistency is not their forte when it comes to smartphones. The screens however, are consistently bad. Even the ZUltra is hideous. LOL... GO WATCH SOME VIDEO AND TAKE OFF YOUR TROLL'S GLASSES... YOU WILL SEE HOW GOOD THE Z ULTRA DISPLAY IS
Is Sony trying to do too much at once? New design, new UI, new specs, new camera, new software integration, water/dust proof. I don't want it to be a total mess when it comes out, with manufacturing issues and bugs galore that are still not rectified even after six months. Sony's track record in the smartphone space, to reiterate, has been very poor. The Nokia EOS at least has no surprises, and they are tweaking what has basically already been released a year ago. The 41MP is proven already and its just a matter of porting the software from Symbian and optimizing. The rest of the phone is a boring ass Lumia 920 from yesteryear. They've had plenty of time and aren't working from scratch. Even with Windows Phone, it might be a more compelling package than whatever Sony is trying to stew up in their cauldron. Of course, I say the complete opposite to Nokia fanboys at MyNokiaBlog. It it weren't for the pointless strife, fanboy groups could find a common thread of companionship in how universally obnoxious they are. NOKIA'S PHONE ARE GORGEOUS EXCEPT FOR WM8 I DON'T LIKE IT
For me, it comes down to the pictures and the screen. I don't really care much about the body anymore. 20MP and yada yada yada. I've seen it all before. If the camera ain't much better than what the Note 3 can produce, and Sony sticks with the same terrible screen trend of theirs, the Note 3 will be my next phone and not Xperia anything. In fact, the camera has to be significantly better, as I far prefer the newest AMOLED screens, which are even more color accurate than all the other IPS screens available on a phone UBER DUPER LOL. And Sony is still stuck with that ugly, hazy launcher with thin text and faux elegance. AND HERE A ROFL... GO WITH YOUR TOUCHWIZ WHICH SURELY IS FASTER AND LIGHTER 
We were missing your lovely post... 
Obviously I'm a fanboy... i really like Sony and I see their devices with Fanboy Glassess ON... but still if a Lumia would come out with android i would buy it instantly! and I love the HTC designs I just happen to hate samsung's mobiles.. 
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-07-01 11:03 ] |
moogoo
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@stedus me too man. i think you should buy me a Honami in addition to the one for yourself. since you seem to have more sony cash flow than i do
if not you.. maybe king-james. he gets a new phone every few months!!!
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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CrownedAkuma
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here there are some picture taken with the Xperia Z camera but with the new algorythm from HONAMI
http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]t.php?p=43141000&postcount=560
GO WATCH!
here are the pics...
Bear in my mind that this is NOT HONAMI CAMERA, it's just the HONAMI's CAMERA APP LOADED IN A XPERIA Z..
what do you think of the images?
they are really good in my opinion... there's not to much noise, compared with normal shots from Xperia Z
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-07-01 11:14 ] |
stedus
Joined: Aug 15, 2012
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@moogoo: nah... my pocket cannot hold it anymore T_T
I'm saving cash right now to buy this hottie...... so no new Laptop for me this year 
PLEASE IGNORE THE TROLL GUYS
[ This Message was edited by: stedus on 2013-07-01 11:07 ] |
auchengyu
Joined: Apr 26, 2013
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Ignorance is bliss guys ^^, this is what I did before writing this:
1. Saw katamari name
2. Saw super long text, first 5 words.
skipped down, next page, next page.,here I am ^^"
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moogoo
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@stedus ha. no new laptop for me either.. sigh...
@crownedakuma - NICE FIND! photos look stunning. looks like the new algorithm is much better
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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razec
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You guys are rich I'm still saving for a new fast lens for my canon DSLR
Honami indeed is amazing going by the suggested specs, but I think Z Ultra hit me with a cupid arrow  I'm so impressed with the new touch display that I've forgotten my obsession for a pressure sensitive pen
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-07-01 11:10 ] 10 years at Esato |
Xajel
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On 2013-07-01 12:05:31, CrownedAkuma wrote:
here there are some picture taken with the Xperia Z camera but with the new algorythm from HONAMI
http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]t.php?p=43141000&postcount=560
GO WATCH!
Bear in my mind that this is not HONAMI CAMERA, it's just the HONAMI's CAMERA APP LOADED IN A XPERIA Z..
what do you think of the images?
they are really good in my opinion... there's not to much noise, compared with normal shots from Xperia Z
Xperia Z is already good without it, and now it looks better.. but I hope to have a side by side comparison, Old vs. New to have a better idea for the improvements...
Wonder how Honami will make use of this
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moogoo
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haha razec.. better hope you don't regret getting ZU when honami makes its appearance 
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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stedus
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I wonder whether the currents Xperias will get the same Camera algorithm like Honami
The pics looks great
@razec: hope you get yourself a ZU and make us more awesome renders  |
CrownedAkuma
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On 2013-07-01 12:14:32, moogoo wrote:
haha razec.. better hope you don't regret getting ZU when honami makes its appearance
Besides who knows? Maybe Honami will have the same touch tech |
MartenR
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You guys are rich. I'm going to get a new phone in six mounths and that phone probably would be Xperia M. | |
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Posted: 2013-07-01 11:44
