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DexterMoser
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^^ Well they got better, as far as I know there aren't any Xperia Z/ZLs with AH-IPS panel, right?
And it's just a question of time until there are only perfect displays left 
btw:
According to GSM Arena
Contrast 1513:1
Brightness 580 cd/m²
Black level 0.38 cd/m²
Over all one of the best LCDs out there, if not the best!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-983p2.php
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feryshad
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when "all the VA panels are used up" ??!!
This day of mine
was lost
Like all the other days
half of it thinking of yesterday
half of it thinking of tomorrow
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DexterMoser
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^ Apparently they have some over overcapacities from the Xperia Z and ZL.
Maybe they bought too many because they thought the Z/ZL would sell much better.
Just a guess.
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Gitaroo
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guess I will wait 2 months until c6903 price drop to 650-700 and see if they camera software gets develop even more?
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davidsic
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I see a lot of corner softness on pictures taken with the Z1  |
northmonkey
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On 2013-09-13 22:13:59, davidsic wrote:
I see a lot of corner softness on pictures taken with the Z1
Do you think the camera is better than the S4? |
DexterMoser
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^ Yes.
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davidsic
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Yes i think but not too much depending the light conditions.
I saw good pictures by Z1 but sometimes look strange, grainy, compression, blur areas...
I don't really like this phone, it looks good but it's heavy and big for a 5 inch screen but it's probably a very good android smartphone, Sony IU is nice.
Lg G2 is more appealing to me despite it's more "basic plastic looking" |
ascariss
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On 2013-09-13 21:21:57, DACHA wrote:
Vendors:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Sony is using up the remaining inventory from Z/ZL and mixing in some AH-IPS panels. Once all the VA panels are used up Sony will only use AH-IPS and S-PLS panels.
This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL.
This is unfortunate, hmm not sure if I should hold off buying the new Z1 for now...crud :/ |
MNX1024
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On 2013-09-13 21:21:57, DACHA wrote:
Panel lottery for the Z1 confirmed btw.
Vendors:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Any idea how we can tell which one uses what display? Such as using the SKU or UPC numbers? |
moogoo
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well, according to Dacha's source's info.. none of the panels used were TN, which is what many of you were so afraid of.
Personally, I'm perfectly happy with a VA panel since viewing angles aren't that important to me. Color accuracy/range and sharpness is what really matters to me.
Anyway, screen lotteries aren't anything new. Even Apple uses a screen lottery and the reason behind it is simply not putting all your eggs in one basket. If that info is true (not to doubt dacha or anything, but source info sometimes can become inaccurate for whatever reason) they seem to all be good to better quality panels (according to the video) with triluminos and x-reality tech. the only disadvantage of having one of the earlier Z/ZL screens seemingly being the viewing angle.. which to some isn't a disadvantage at all.
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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DACHA
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@moogoo
That is what I got from my source.
I am also totally fine with the display in my ZL. From the front it beats any display in color accuracy. My sister has an iPhone and she likes the display on the ZL better. If the LTE Z1 releases unlocked at the beginning of next month it will be her next phone. I got confirmation that the Z1 is coming to the US in early October. My source could not tell me if it will support AT&T LTE bands.
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Geoffxx
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On 2013-09-13 21:57:35, DexterMoser wrote:
^^ Well they got better, as far as I know there aren't any Xperia Z/ZLs with AH-IPS panel, right?
And it's just a question of time until there are only perfect displays left
btw:
According to GSM Arena
Contrast 1513:1
Brightness 580 cd/m²
Black level 0.38 cd/m²
Over all one of the best LCDs out there, if not the best!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-983p2.php
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-09-13 20:58 ]
That is by far the best review yet and obviously on a full production unit
I'm not sure I believe the earlier post here claiming that old screen stock from Z/ZL was being used on Z1 retail version, that just doesn't seem right to me plus would triluminous work with these screens - sure they have to be manufactured for purpose, also modern production factories do not hold inventory or buy huge stock in advance - they drip feed the phone manufacturing facility almost on a daily basis, there are no big massive stores like there were years ago - everything is "just in time" nobody carries stock right down the supply chain
would they do this sort of thing for prototypes and preproduction runs - absolutely 100% but I would be very very doubtful this would happen for full retail version of a device - and don't forget the screens are bought in as an assembled unit to the Z1 manufacturing plants - although I don't know the answer to this I'd expect triluminous to be hard ware designed into the panel so a Z/ZL screen would be of no use
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moogoo
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@geoffxx - from what i understand triluminos should work on all of them since it's a filter to the backlighting led.. but i honestly haven't read too much up on the tech..
@dacha - yes i agree. i think that's what matters most for someone who doesn't care about viewing angles. how does the phone look when you're actually using it for you (which is 99%) of the time. there is news that its releasing in singamore in early oct., so i hope its the same or sooner for the US _and_ that it supports AT&T LTE, which is the whole reason i've been waiting.. if it turns out by the first half of oct, there is no c6906 in sight.. i may just get c6903 and take advantage of european deals..
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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Ambivalent_
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-983p6.php
It seem that Z1 won't be able to record 1080p@60 fps out of the box, so let's hope for an update.
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