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northmonkey
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Stop telling me what to do Moogoo. |
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northmonkey
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On 2013-09-13 20:12:05, aurelius wrote:
On 2013-09-13 19:45:29, northmonkey wrote:
Sorry to say this and I'm not trolling but it's same old same old from Sony.
GSMArena have confirmed the picture quality is either down to processing or the lens and have said the lens wasn't dirty, the pictures on Flickr and GSMArena show that yet again Sony have got it wrong with processing and the 1020 is going to beat it easily.
There's something clearly wrong with GSMarenas phone/lens/sensor! You don't have to be a 7 year old to understand that!
It's the 6th website or review I have seen where they have said the Camera isn't very good. |
moogoo
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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PowerLee
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Xperia Z1 = talks the talk but cant walk the walk.
After all the hype the camera performance is still a let down for such an expensive & premium device.
For a device retailing at £600 in the UK, the camera just isn't up to it. |
doministry
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/a-sh[....]s-great-promise-from-the-sony/
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admad
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On 2013-09-13 20:08:44, moogoo wrote:
On 2013-09-13 20:03:08, admad wrote:
On 2013-09-13 12:25:11, Away wrote:
Seems like my information and your information is conflicting.
What's your source?
Again, this might not be very reliable, but it's said the Z1 will be able to take 4k@30fps at the same time as burst mode 20mp pictures at 10 pictures per second.
My source is common sense. Today's chipset can't playback a 4K@60fps, not to mention record at this resolution, it's ridicolous. Maybe in 2 years things will change, maybe.
and common sense would also dictate that "able to take" =/= playback and 4K@30fps =/= ">4K@60fps  considering Z1 can burst mode 30 frames in 1 second at 8mp resolution (i.e., 4K), it's definitely plausible that a future software updates will enable 4K@30fps recording (which is what Away said).
  
Oh and @northmonkey .. yes.. you HAD interest. You no longer do. The rest of us who are STILL interested would probably prefer you refrain from recurring posts about your disappointment in the camera. It doesn't add to the discussion and litters the thread.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-13 19:10 ]
AFAIK Z1 can take 61 20MP photos in 2 seconds. But it's only for 2 seconds, they can use some extra memory to store that, but with video they have to process all these photos and at the same time take another ones, that requiers A LOT of power. That's why no 4K on Z1 even if it can take many high res photos within a second. Exactly same reason why 4K@60fps is impossible  |
northmonkey
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On 2013-09-13 17:18:02, Jubei1 wrote:
Hopefully the glued one back cover wont cause the same problem as on Xperia Z
I was on about the back cover problem and screen breaking issue on the Z a few pages back and people said I was trolling! how many people on here have had problems with the back cover coming apart or the screen breaking on the Z? |
doministry
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http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]z1-low-light-snaps-look-great/
http://unleashthephones.com/2[....]samples-tiong-bahru-singapore/
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moogoo
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@admad .. your logic would be fine if there were no other devices at the same processing power as the Z1 which were able to record 4K@30fps. But, there is. Both the acer liquid and the note 3, which have similar processing power can record 4K.
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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doministry
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On 2013-09-13 20:30:37, northmonkey wrote:
On 2013-09-13 17:18:02, Jubei1 wrote:
Hopefully the glued one back cover wont cause the same problem as on Xperia Z
I was on about the back cover problem and screen breaking issue on the Z a few pages back and people said I was trolling! how many people on here have had problems with the back cover coming apart or the screen breaking on the Z?
Me not. AFAIK not many...
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Miki69
Joined: May 22, 2002
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Hardwareluxx.de review:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/in[....]m-test-frisch-von-der-ifa.html
Although the display of the Xperia Z1 can with a mean maximum brightness 399 cd / m² certainly be read in sunlight, which is devoted to the measurements of contrast, however, can not convince entirely. With 532:1 he is even well below-cost devices such as Acer Liquid E 1, or else the BlackBerry Q10, HTC One or the direct competitor LG G2. Of a high-end device with a quite high price you would expect here more clearly - Black should be black, not like the Z1 with an always visible gray veil.
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/im[....]es/reviews/sony_z1/display.png
Cheers,
Miki
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DACHA
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I hope that my source won`t mind that I Share some of the info I was given.
Panel lottery for the Z1 confirmed btw.
Vendors:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Sony is using up the remaining inventory from Z/ZL and mixing in some AH-IPS panels. Once all the VA panels are used up Sony will only use AH-IPS and S-PLS panels.
This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL.
Info on different panels types.
PLS panels are supposedly better than IPS panels according to this video that compares all panel types.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]&feature=player_embedded#t=120
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2013-09-13 20:51 ] |
Away
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On 2013-09-13 20:03:08, admad wrote:
On 2013-09-13 16:23:52, Away wrote:
On 2013-09-13 13:28:21, admad wrote:
On 2013-09-13 12:31:39, nodarsixar wrote:
On 2013-09-13 12:25:11, Away wrote:
On 2013-09-13 11:43:42, nodarsixar wrote:
xperia z1 no 60fps video?
[ This Message was edited by: nodarsixar on 2013-09-13 10:52 ]
My information might not be reliable but it'll get 4k 60fps soon.
This model?
Nope, but a Z3 or Z4 might just do that
Seems like my information and your information is conflicting.
What's your source?
Again, this might not be very reliable, but it's said the Z1 will be able to take 4k@30fps at the same time as burst mode 20mp pictures at 10 pictures per second.
My source is common sense. Today's chipset can't playback a 4K@60fps, not to mention record at this resolution, it's ridicolous. Maybe in 2 years things will change, maybe.
*facepalm*
It's because of people like you I can't troll successfully. I was being sarcastic. No wonder you're always the last to get things...
Are the S-LCDs better than the AH-IPSs?
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northmonkey
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On 2013-09-13 21:21:57, DACHA wrote:
I hope that my source won`t mind that I Share some of the info I was given.
Panel lottery for the Z1 confirmed btw.
Vendors:
JDI type 1 - AH-IPS (this was used for the ZU)
JDI type 2 - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Sharp - VA (Xperia Z/ZL leftovers)
Samsung - S-PLS (Will only be used after all the VA panels are used up)
Sony is using up the remaining inventory from Z/ZL and mixing in some AH-IPS panels. Once all the VA panels are used up Sony will only use AH-IPS and S-PLS panels.
This would explain why some prototypes and production units have outstanding displays and some are just like Z/ZL.
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2013-09-13 20:35 ]
There you have it ladies and gentleman, same old Sony being cheap, they will lose their reputation and never be Androids number 1.
[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2013-09-13 20:49 ] |
Miki69
Joined: May 22, 2002
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@DACHA,
thanks for sharing info mate. So, we should wait for few months until all shitty supplies are gone? Or is it maybe market dependent, like different markets get different screens?
Cheers,
Miki |
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