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Sony Ericsson 8.1MP C905 Discussion (Shiho) |
se_dude
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As of now, there is really nothing to choose between the phones. The cam pics are almost the same. But the innov8 doesnt seem to make good landscape shots..have a look.
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]innov8/camera/gsmarena_007.jpg
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se_dude
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WTF!!!Even smape says that the sensor is th same as the one used in the samsung one. What is going on?? |
micks2005
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Hi there,
Some new info. with regards to the video rec. of the C905.
The reason why Sony Ericsson has opted for the QVGA res. for video rec. is that according to people at SE is that when viewed except on a comp. it would be displayed at full VGA res. on your TV screen, whatever the size of your TV.
If you would view it on your comp it would be in QVGA but then again can be edited to full VGA and still would be crisp according to SE. As well in QVGA would be easily displayed on your C905 display and all videos can be uploaded to Youtube/daily motion ... etc. As well you can view Youtube videos on your cell.
The C905 is designed to take your multimedia files direct from your phone to your TV screen. So all TV out files would be displayed at VGA res.
As well the lense of the C905 is made of mineral glass, the same as the screen/display.
Hope this helps.
Ciao.
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Hiron
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Smape says it's the final cam version? I don't think so...
Sure they takes the picture yesterday (August 1st), but C905 that they has still boasting an old firmware, probably still prototypes... The EXIF even doesn't contains geotagging... The quality is still stunning though...
Anda at least, final production unit will has a new firmware revision 
I hav compared C905 pics from Smape and Innov8 from GSMArena, and I hav to sadly admit that both of them has pretty same performance, and Smape's C905 clearly using CMOS module, not CCD, with a purple fringing appears. In Innov8, I don't see any lens problem, so Samsung has a little advantage in daylight pictures. But Xenon Flash in C905 will clearly makes a big deal in night pic.
Look at Innov8 samples HERE.
Unsatisfied C905 samples
But I still has a faith that C905 final has a better details. Smape is using an old ones
@micks2005,
Mineral glass lenses? Good news, hope it will also corrects lens problem (at least in Smape's C905.)
Edited to full VGA? Makes a sense, since I thought that C905's video samples bit rate is too high for QVGA.
View Youtube videos on your cell? Does "your cell" refers to C905? Are you sure NetFront 3.4 browser that embedded in C905 supports YouTube .flv streaming? Can you confirm this? It has FlashLite 2.0 suports?
As I know, Samsung Innov8 supports streaming YouTube just like in your PC. Hope C905 has that ability too, because I use YouTube a lot 
By the way, nice illumination effects:
Hiron
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micks2005
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@ Hiron
Yup, your cell refers to the C905 ... !!! I think the browser in C905 the Netfront browser ver. is abit higher, as well you can get Opera installed as well.
The C905 supports .flv streaming as it has adobe flash lite support with regards to the Project Capuchin.
So you can view, download and upload Youtube videos.
Hope this helps.
Ciao. |
alex_on
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@micks2005
you confirmed that the sensor is Sony Exmor CMOS while smape says somthing else . can you make it clear ? |
Raiderski
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the innov8 doesnt seem to make good landscape shots
well, as for me they just roxx. vibrant colors and a lot of details, I would like to see night shots too
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micks2005
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@Alex ...
The C905 uses Sony ... not Samsung. Everyone keeps mentioning Samsung because right now everyone knows that Samsung is making 8MP sensors but within SE it is known that the C905 will be using Sony.
The C902 & 905 are using Sony sensor's/Matrix. Right now the hardware is still being tweaked and by mid of this month mass production will begin.
All pics that will be taken from next month onwards, most likely the mid to end of next month will be with the new hardware and final firmware. At present both SE & Samsung are at par with each other and the pics are pretty good.
Hope this helps.
Ciao. |
alex_on
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thanks man. |
Hiron
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Do you mean that we will see far better quality of photo samples from C905 mass production unit?
I know this thing had happened before with C902.
And I have a doubt about YouTube support, since my proto only use NetFront 3.4, and streaming .flv is impossible. I only can streams limited content of .3gp video by using m.youtube.com (wap version), and can be done already by K800
and K850...
Even BeiBei protos that armed with OperaMobile 9.5 with FlashLite 2.0 didn't support .Flv streaming.
And I never heard that project Capuchin has integrate FlashLite into NetFront browser. Ver 3.4 doesn't support full-complex flash content web browsing. Only partially by allowing to view .swf content from your phone memory.
Has you tried this streaming yourself? Are you sure mass production unit of C905 will supports YouTube just like Samsung Innov8 screenshot below:
I'm so sorry because I have some doubt, simply because my proto couldn't do that.
Could you post some screenshot about C905 using YouTube? That ability would be a nice Selling Point of C905. I hope C905 will support YouTube .Flv streaming.
Thanks for your attention,
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yea g
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OMG I must have this phone its such a shame ill have to use vodafones expensive prising plans. NZ is so expensive |
NightBlade
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AFAIK, YouTube will be embedded into the Media menu.
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iqtidar
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On 2008-08-01 13:47:15, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
On 2008-08-01 11:33:13, Dogmann wrote:
@Muhammad-oli and NightBlade
Eldar has a job and sees prototypes and phones most of us would die to be able to do. He has more experience and knowledge then the pair of you clowns put together and then some. You may not like or agree with his views but at least he basis his reviews on hands on experiences with units, what are you basing yours on pictures and wishful thinking because you love SE?
What's really funny is when SE where still rising and producing great handsets Eldar was a god and always spot on. Now you don't like to face the facts and truth his an idiot, i don't think so. You two are acting like a pair of spoiled kids and your knowledge and experience compared to Eldar's is a joke you are just making yourselves look more and more petty and stupid. Actually the one thing you both are doing really well just grow up.
Marc
Dogmann,
I don't appreciate being insulted, but I will prove that at least I am a decent human being and won't insult you back, and will instead hope for an apology.
I agree that Eldar was great once upon a time. He must have been a 'god', as you put it, to gain all these disciples who follow his word like it's the gospel. But even Esato's "greatest debater" can not truthfully deny that Eldar has gotten his facts wrong recently. He has time and again judged Sony Ericsson's portfolio on mere prototypes which are not an accurate measure of the final product, and because he has so many supporters, his words spread like wildfire. He is soiling the name of a company for reasons that hold little to no truth. Sure he may be lucky to be able to see these prototypes, and I am envious, but I question whether he should be seeing him if he's going to base his final opinion on an unfinished product.
For example, he continuously states that the C905 has a Samsung camera module, and maybe the prototype he had seen did, but we have had further proof lately that it is indeed a Sony module. Yet he STILL states it is a Samsung. Why would any person do this? I can think of just one reason: That he WANTS to ruin the company. Smape's comments seem to back me up here. He is in the middle of a feud with Sony Ericsson, and I bet it's his rage fueling his comments.
To me, Sony Ericsson are showing signs of improvement, but if people like you keep believing Eldar's misinformed opinions, then the current state of things won't change. People won't buy Sony Ericsson, and therefore Sony Ericsson won't profit and make the improvements.
Call me petty and stupid all you like, and yes I may like Sony Ericsson, which I see nothing wrong with. But if you're one who can't see past Eldar's 'wisdom', maybe it's time for you to take a good hard look at the facts.
show me the proof! and u esato-ans(blind SE fanboys) just cant accept the fact... and u commenting on his prototype preview? its all true. the w902 shouldnt be announced... as a music phone wat does it has? dsp?wifi? 3.5mm jack? just the funky shake thingy...
an u said u r decent human being and won't insult people but u just insulted eldar...
u r an idiot for believing smape(i wont mention the name although i know)... now smape is the good guy here where in real life he is the bad guy.. he betrayed MR and left and started his own website...
f.u. blind fanboys.. |
se_dude
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Umm..actually the idea of a walkman with 5 mp cam and flash has raised many heads. this should have been announced earlier rather than cancelled. Potential bestseller, as gsmarena mentioned. |
naveedaziz83
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@hiron
could you please point out where the purple fringing is. i tried looking but couldnt find it .. thanx man
@iqtidar
oh com on man .. y r u bringing up the same argument as doggman on THIS thread ... this thread is abt c905 as the name suggests ... so ill say it again .. please take ur personal arguments sum where else or do it in PM
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