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hihihans
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Posted: 2014-05-12 11:37
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This is getting annoying indeed.
Some reviewer takes a picture under unknown circumstances and you all believe it. Now a respected member gives you all details and he is a telling lies????

Come on, even my 9year old son talks with more sence than you lot.
Cut the crap!
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-05-12 11:37
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haha

now you've shown your true colors, bono.

that's a rather incredibly unimaginative and unconvincing story.

well, at least, you saved us the horror of seeing you in a bathtub soaking wet (remember that photo, folks?) to brag that you actually owned the device.

This is getting annoying indeed.
Some reviewer takes a picture under unknown circumstances and you all believe it. Now a respected member gives you all details and he is a telling lies????

Come on, even my 9year old son talks with more sence than you lot.
Cut the crap!


i'd believe that "some reviewer" over that longtime "respected?" member if he actually posted real photos to prove his claim that the camera he had was terrible.

i hope you are referring to doministry as that "respected member" because if you are referring to that longtime esato member who failed to show proofs of his terrible photos, i think i would lose faith in humanity.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-05-12 11:35 ]
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-05-12 12:13
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I actually did indeed mean the word peace and no 'trolling' as you lot put it. I was tired of all the silly arguments of my phone is better than yours. And i stick by what i said. But i was just also telling you all that the photos on my unit were terribly blurry but i did delete them. And if you read my post i did say maybe i had a defective unit i don't know. But there was none left in stock so i refunded for another reason anyway. So please you lot need to cut the crap not me.
Phone?? What phone??
dalmac
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Posted: 2014-05-12 12:46
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On 2014-05-12 12:13:00, Bonovox wrote:
I actually did indeed mean the word peace and no 'trolling' as you lot put it. I was tired of all the silly arguments of my phone is better than yours. And i stick by what i said. But i was just also telling you all that the photos on my unit were terribly blurry but i did delete them. And if you read my post i did say maybe i had a defective unit i don't know. But there was none left in stock so i refunded for another reason anyway. So please you lot need to cut the crap not me.


You must have had a defective unit. I don't have any blur on my shots (been using it for a week now and taken hundreds of photos).
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2014-05-12 12:54
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Bono remains the most critical smartphone owner I've ever seen. He is equally critical of every single brand, but the moment he criticises a Sony people cry foul and call him a troll
Seems to be a trend in all the Sony threads, if anyone or a publication says even one negative thing about a Sony they are trolling or not credible. Interesting.


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doministry
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Posted: 2014-05-12 13:16
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Well. I was 100% sure he won't stand a week with Z2.
And it actually happened. As it happened with all Sony devices recently.
So who is right?

Beeing critical is GREAT. But moaning without any proof is just stupid.
No respect.

As I posted since the day 1 - Z2 has no blur etc.
Evidence? I posted shots for f... sake.

So yes ATM I trust more the reviewer who posts shots
than a user who mysteriously gets a refund now.

And in general most of this theead in the last 20 pages or so
is dealing with 2 users who moan.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2014-05-12 12:18 ]
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Ranjith
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Posted: 2014-05-12 13:32
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On 2014-05-12 06:55:37, miromiromi wrote:
ranjith, these are other things you have to examine:

1. the gap between the glass and the frame
2. the brightness of the display (if you care about outdoor visibility). some displays are noticeably brighter. however, the dimmer ones still aren't bad. they're still better than the htc butterfly's display.
3. non-synching audio in 4k video mode

these are some of the issues documented. check them out to avoid picking a defective device.

if you are in india, be sure that your camera is not blurring. i don't understand why the units of some indian reviewers are producing blurry photos.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-05-12 06:53 ]


Thanks buddy,will do.
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hihihans
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Posted: 2014-05-12 13:41
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In photo section it's stated very clear to upload pictures to show what a phone is capable off. Not to show faults. Think quality not quantity.

If Bono has a new phone every week, who cares. Be glad someone writes about a stock model.
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-05-12 13:45
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@doministry it is not moaning without any proof. Who cares and so what that i didn't have any proof?? I was going to keep it as it is a fantastic handset but the long time frame the store said for more stock was unknown. And anyway the FACT that i have a blurry lens or whatever caused it gives me the right to moan. Am i up against a jury here that i have to provide proof?? If i don't provide evidence i stand accused of being a liar and a troll?? Jesus you people need to get grip and stop whining and moaning at everyone else yourselves. There are handsets i haven't liked and handsets i have had issues with. Since when was it so bad of me to TRY Sony again as i believed the Z2 to be much improved over the Z1. But to my eyes and experience that was simply not the case. All I did was say i had a blurry camera on the right side which did look bad. But i had already deleted the images off my pc. Does that make me such a bad person for not providing you proof?? I am very critical when it comes to phones cos i spend money buy and sell alot like many others on here and i want my moneys worth. I couldn't care less what you all think of me but i am fed up with being called names just for having my view which doesn't agree with yours.
Phone?? What phone??
northmonkey
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:19
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On 2014-05-12 12:54:40, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Bono remains the most critical smartphone owner I've ever seen. He is equally critical of every single brand, but the moment he criticises a Sony people cry foul and call him a troll
Seems to be a trend in all the Sony threads, if anyone or a publication says even one negative thing about a Sony they are trolling or not credible. Interesting.


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I agree I've had lots of sony phones and if I say something bad about a Sony phone everyone gets angry
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nikola1970
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:22
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How can we trust you? U didnt show any single proof and you are complaining? Really?


Im sure u would show it if u actually had the phone.
miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:24
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Tsepz_GP
Bono remains the most critical smartphone owner I've ever seen. He is equally critical of every single brand, but the moment he criticises a Sony people cry foul and call him a troll


your generalization is off. in this particular instance, he is being criticized for failing to show a clear proof of his complaint of a terrible camera. think of it. he went out of his way to post a photo of the credit card transaction document but he couldn't show that blurry photo he is saying. oh please don't generalize regulars of the z2 thread as onion skinned people who can't take criticisms. as far as we know, no one here goes to the threads of other manufacturers/devices for the sole purpose of spreading negative feedback.


If Bono has a new phone every week, who cares. Be glad someone writes about a stock model.


problem is if he actually didn't have it and is just trying to make people believe he had it. the failure to show proofs of that defective camera betrays logic.

i don't know what laws you have in your land but as far as i know if you accuse of a defect, the burden of proof is on you. presumption of your innocence (in not lying) cannot apply here because i think nobody is accusing you of anything here. people just want you to show your proof in what you're claiming.


Cheers!

I agree, I've had all the sony phones and if I say something bad about a Sony phone everyone starts getting angry


you really love your role, don't you, monkey? somebody attacks then you give the back up.


the point is it is easy to shut us up by providing evidence. as simple as that.

Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:29
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But you guys are over reacting. And that photo of my receipt was taken with my spare phone. Why do you people have to stress it so much cos i didn't provide evidence?? It's not like it's going to affect your life. I give up am outta here
Phone?? What phone??
itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:39
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We need thy broom, hihihans, for thou shalt clean this thread, and thou shalt keep it so.
Bonovox
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Posted: 2014-05-12 14:44
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Hmm yes and i ain't the one who's caused the problem it's you lot having a go at me again. I said i was out of this thread not Esato and i only said once
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