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bavlondon2
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Posted: 2008-05-12 22:09
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Shame about the lack of mem card slot.
Daedalus85
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Posted: 2008-05-12 22:20
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I dunno about saying it's nothing they've done before, the Pearl and Curve were a bit like that really, the Pearl especially.

This just seems like a progressive upgrade rather than an overhaul of the brand or anything. It's still got the same layout, still has GPS and WiFi, still does e-mails very well.

Yes they've added 1GB memory, but if Nokia can do 8GB on their other phones this is hardly record breaking.


Don't get me wrong, it's really nice, and a good upgrade from my Curve in 9 months or so, but it's not 'ground breaking' really, hence why I can't see why their seperating it from the rest of the branding.
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fatreg
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Posted: 2008-05-12 22:28
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it does have a mem card slot bav....

it's os 4.6 and combines everything that has been in seperate devices before, also it's the first HSDPA handset by RIM...

I don't really care what it's called, I'll be getting one pretty pronto after release!
londonlad123
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Posted: 2008-05-12 23:22
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I take it 13 days standby a typical bb affair? Its got everything covered well. Anyway to get the full youtube on there?
Dogmann
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Posted: 2008-05-12 23:39
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Hi all,

I really can't understand how anyone can say this isn't anything new as unless i am very much mistaken.

It has a new and improved OS 4.6
A new processor @624mghz
1GB on board memory and support for SDHC up to 16GB
Multi band UMTS & HSDPA support
A brand new screen @480x320
Improved GPS and Maps
Improved Multimedia functionality

All of which IMO moves it to the next level compared to previous offerings and it is a great looking device to IMO. Previously i had found BB's lacking in some area's this new Bold seems to address all those issues.

Marc

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themarques
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Posted: 2008-05-13 02:00
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What really is a shame is the size, I mean for what it does and its size you would expect more like someone pointed out earlier if Nokia can jam 16Gb, 1Gb is no breakthrough.

I do hope they start to allow the saving of doc files natively to the memory card as this is quite annoying and I hate having to spend more money on purchasing 3rd party apps.

All in its good to see, as it means the phone will work in Japan so a bit of a blessing in disguise. Though I am still waiting to see the N96 I will be ordering one as soon as its out.
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2008-05-13 10:00
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On 2008-05-12 22:28:23, fatreg wrote:
it does have a mem card slot bav....

it's os 4.6 and combines everything that has been in seperate devices before, also it's the first HSDPA handset by RIM...

I don't really care what it's called, I'll be getting one pretty pronto after release!



Have you got a link to that info?

One the crackberry review i saw it said it only has like under 100mb internal.

Oops i just read Dogmans part. Thank god it has a mem card slot!!! Now im really interested in this.

Can someone tell me if -

1) You can get delivery reports on SMS
2) Does bluetooth allow for file transfer ect....ie not crippled like iphone.

Also whats the screen size? 2.3 inches?

[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-05-13 09:06 ]
deepsme
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Posted: 2008-05-13 10:07
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If anyone here is interested...

Windows Live is coming to Blackberry
here, have a puff
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2008-05-13 10:16
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Fantastic news!!!!! I was just going to ask I hope there is some sort of Windows Live Messenger on the horizon!!!! Im actually really thinking about getting this now.

Can any existing BB owners tell me if you can have SMS delivery reports?

And what will web surfing be like on this?

Finally will 9000 allow playback of 3GP videos ecoded at H264 or even H264 in mp4? Im seriously considering getting one of these things.

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BobaFett
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Posted: 2008-05-13 15:27
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does bb support tomtom? thx
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mutleyboy
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Posted: 2008-05-13 21:48
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newb bb question here, im considering getting a cheap curve.

Are pin messages free to anywhere in the world or just to users in the same country as you?

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lovewalrus
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Posted: 2008-05-14 00:34
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No tom tom isn't supported-yet, yes you do get delivery reports (little d letter appears next to sent messages) and web browsing is ok, but not great (however using Opera mini it's as quick if not quicker and better quality than my N95 using HSDPA). I've been using blackberry's for years and they are the most reliable handset 3lve ever used with not one going wrong! Oh, PIN messaging can be used between any BlackBerry anywhere in the world (inc P2P file transfers)! :o)

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Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2008-05-14 05:18
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On 2008-05-12 18:29:18, fatreg wrote:
^ why can't it be the model number? they can then at a later date do a 9010 or so....



Exactly, the 8700 & the 8800 both started that way.


On 2008-05-12 22:20:52, Daedalus85 wrote:
I dunno about saying it's nothing they've done before, the Pearl and Curve were a bit like that really, the Pearl especially.

This just seems like a progressive upgrade rather than an overhaul of the brand or anything. It's still got the same layout, still has GPS and WiFi, still does e-mails very well.

Yes they've added 1GB memory, but if Nokia can do 8GB on their other phones this is hardly record breaking.


Don't get me wrong, it's really nice, and a good upgrade from my Curve in 9 months or so, but it's not 'ground breaking' really, hence why I can't see why their seperating it from the rest of the branding.



First off why does EVERYONE compare hardware & markets from differing manufacturers as the same? Nokia has specific devices to compete with the Blackberry.

Daedalus85, you may or may not have a BB, but I think you're from a consumer perspective/less informed corporate user. You fail to see many things of RIM & BlackBerry.

* Security, Efficiency, and extensibility is TOP priority; along with speed as well.

* Nokia has NOT made 8GB in the E61/E62/E62i or E50/E51i models. The N81, N95 with 8GB imbedded options BOTH do NOT allow expandable memory, the N96 with 16GB does. But i'd rather have expandable flash in today's technology since currently imbedded flash on phones is NOT faster than MicroSD speeds - and at 8GB or higher costs WAY too much. Nokia is a worldwide MASS market manufacturer with various production warehouses. RIM only has 1 location to manufacture their phones ... Ontario, Canada. Texas USA goes live soon.

THe brand HAS been overhauled.

* No other model offers WiFi, GPS, and camera & imbedded memory in 1 device! Thats the Curve & 8820 rolled into one & much more.
* MUCH faster cpu; applications & radio on one die; the Xscale they've used for the past 3yrs was already 1yr old when they got locked into that contract with Intel before the sale of that chip design occured.
* The OS is completely overhauled: HTML Email is imbedded (3rd party apps offerd this prior, only the newer 8130's have this but not supported in BIS/BES currently - BES 4.1.4 has it but its turned off and not stable nor does it work properly).
* Organization of Network diagnostics (WiFi or Network) is MUCH easier & faster to get to from main screen. Great for TS.
* Ability to turn off 3G.
* Oh sorry 3G is there ... use your phone as a modem and STILL get your emails, make phone calls. Do the same directly on your BB. Send or receive/emails, make appointments while on conference call (voice), or do it over VoIP/UMA, in the USA, Europe, Asia, South America ... no limits man THAT is HUGE! This was a BIG hammer that WM had over BLackberrys.

BTW, @ Walrus, if you're on BES ... be careful with p2p over PIN. PIN's can be logged & tracked on the BES since v4.1. But you ARE correct BB's are SOLID, rarely hardware issues and quick TS is easy to find that. Firmware upgrades or downgrades are VERY quick and ALWAYS supported at RIM/provider! BEST in the business.

I feel like a total FOOL for leaving my BB contract. But when this 9000 comes around bye bye K850i ... that'll be my backup phone for sports & vacationing.

* Watching CNBC channel today pissed me off. I HATE UNINFORMED analyst, trying to sound like their in the know. Some lady was saying a new company was making software & trying to get contracts to have their software inbedded into regular cellphones - users worried about lost phones and data being easily hacked from memory cards, since 80% of US employees use personal cellphones. She mentioned that she carry's a BB & a regular cellphone but didn't say why, NOR did she know that on the 8100/8300/8800 series models (all the models with MicroSD card support) that those cards CAN be encrypted NOT just at the corporate level but Also the USER level. Pissed me off, because she didn't do her research properly.
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bavlondon2
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Posted: 2008-05-14 09:51
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Im a bit anxious to be taking the plunge to buying a BB but I really like this phone. Do all of you have one due to work or have you gone out and bought one for personal use?
j0be
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Posted: 2008-05-14 10:48
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bavlondon - I have had all manner of phones, nokia, SE, Samsung, Iphone and I can honestly say my BB is the best thing I have had. Mine is my personal one, I run a windows phone for work but the BB wins hands down. Take the plunge, you wont regret it........!
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