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Posted: 2008-01-09 17:46
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Awwww come on Paul, you know more about bloody computers than I do and you know it

What kind of crashing? Freezing? Error messages? All applications or only some? Random or at certain times? It's important to know 'cos it often indicates whether the problem is hardware or software...

If you get rid of Vista, stick SUSE Linux instead of Ubuntu, much betterer And there is a free legal version of it too, called openSUSE I think...
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Posted: 2008-01-09 17:47
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random freezing ie mouse, usb dont work
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Posted: 2008-01-09 17:55
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Ooooh, Yuk!

Overheating maybe? Restart, go into BIOS and check the temperatures?

Could be memory as well but that more frequently causes restarts rather than freezing.

Also possibly battery / power supply.

If you haven't got anything important or irreplaceable on there, you could always do a clean install of Vista just to make sure it's not a software problem.

But this sounds like it could be a nasty one to me, it might need to be sent off to be looked at
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Posted: 2008-01-09 18:39
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hmmm


overheating? is it likely to occur in more powerful laptops? (its a lenovo thinkpad which i thaught was a good make so....? )


software? its vista so maybee sticking expee on it may help?

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ah yes, my old laptop (celeron, 256mb ram) i put xubuntu on it and works far better than xp! allot faster!
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Posted: 2008-01-09 18:54
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Well, yes in a word. More power = more heat. Especially with laptops, if the heatsinks / heatpipes become slightly detached from the CPU and / or other chips, or if the thermal grease dries out, or if the ventilation fans become clogged up with dust or stop working altogether then said chips will get very hot very quickly.

Freezing up is a very common symptom of overheating in any type of computer
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Posted: 2008-01-09 18:59
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so is core2duo a rather HOT processor?


gosh, i wish i could just open up my laptop and put more fans in if thats the case


i think i'll do a clean install of xp later on, if no fix, i'll reinstall vista and send it back ( liked that laptop )


anyways i still have my old laptop if i do send it back
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Posted: 2008-01-09 19:18
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All modern processors get very hot. Even the old 750Mhz CPU's suffered freezing due to heat

You're right though, do a clean install to make sure first if it's not going cause any harm.
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Posted: 2008-01-09 20:18
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if it still crashes, i can check the temp inside? what is a normal running temp?
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Posted: 2008-01-09 20:26
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Core 2 Duo.. I seem to have about 40 celcius on my iMac.
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Posted: 2008-01-09 20:28
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45 - 70°C for the processor.
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Posted: 2008-01-09 20:28
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installing exppe now
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Posted: 2008-01-10 00:32
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windows xp has not crashed (yet)

temp for processor 56oC

any idea when the next version of windows coming out? dont like vista too much
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Posted: 2008-01-10 02:24
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they have said that they have windows 7 in production, i not loosing xp for a while now i got it setup perfect. i will never upgrade to vista the only time i use vista is do virus and spyware checks on my mums laptop.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 05:32
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@cyco

hi mate i have this laptop http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co[....]s/notebooks/amilo_li_1705.html

can you recomend any parts i can buy to make it any better

thanks

PS i allready have upgraded the ram to 2gb
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Posted: 2008-01-10 13:20
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@paul

Yeah, as Taz says M$ reckon that it's under development but they haven't set a release date yet. However, they did say that they don't want a repeat of the Vista delays fiasco and so going on their previous release schedules, it should be out in 2009 - 2010. Yeah, right...

@capt

The trouble with laptops, of course, is that you're very limited when it comes to upgrading. Since you've already upped the memory, I guess the only thing you could really do is stick a bigger hard drive in it. The data sheet suggests that the largest capacity drive is 160Gb SATA but it doesn't say whether larger drives are supported or not. I would guess that they are, so you could probably put a 200Gb or 250Gb drive in it.

Only problem is how easily accessible the drive is. In some laptops, it's under a little cover on the bottom (like the memory) whilst on others, it's buried inside requiring some very careful dismantling.

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