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Bonovox
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Posted: 2010-06-08 20:00
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Nice surprising quality Except the last photo is slightly over exposed in parts but overall pretty good
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Phone?? What phone??
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Posted: 2010-06-08 20:18
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On 2010-06-08 18:42:22, phonecrzy wrote:


On 2010-06-07 22:33:00, rss_ndrsn wrote:



On 2010-06-07 22:21:16, phonecrzy wrote:



On 2010-06-07 22:00:42, rss_ndrsn wrote:

^True. That is something Nokia and SE was not able to do when they first released phones with video call.



hehehehe because they invented them.





So what if Nokia and SE invented them? Have they actually made something for people to use video call more? No, they just included it on their phones. Nothing interesting than actually seeing that other person you are calling and the other way around.






u just repeated what i meant by that



iphone 4 to iphone 4 video calling - crap really i mean if done it they would be laughed it but apple have such a good reputation and the phones to die for, that simply why people accept it, and 3g facetime is coming soon which should let you talk to other smartphone brand users (depending on the network?)



Have you read how facetime works? Have you seen any device other than Apple that offers full screen video calling at a high resolution? If you do, how many? When you find that out, that's the reason why Face Time only work on IPhone 4. By the way, Face Time is an open standard.
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Posted: 2010-06-08 21:32
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On 2010-06-08 16:31:31, SE-Naz wrote:
Pricing should be similar to the 3GS was when it came out... But it will be clear probably on the 15th...



I'm not from the uk, could you tell me the price?
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Posted: 2010-06-08 22:06
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On 2010-06-08 20:18:29, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Have you read how facetime works? Have you seen any device other than Apple that offers full screen video calling at a high resolution? If you do, how many? When you find that out, that's the reason why Face Time only work on IPhone 4. By the way, Face Time is an open standard.


Oh WOW no offence but u are a real bitch!
I was just saying that the iPhone 4 should support video call to other phones. Or else there is no point having video calls as the whole world does not own a iPhone 4. I love  stuff and I'm a  fan guy. WOW UR SUCH A BITCH
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Posted: 2010-06-08 22:26
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On 2010-06-08 01:12:38, AntonioX wrote:
@ domipost If SE are so good why is my satio so crap, even the nokia x6 that my mate has is better?


Where in my post did I say that?

btw, having used Satio and X6, I'd no doubt go for the first one
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Posted: 2010-06-08 22:36
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@phonecrazy. Ignore him. The blokes a tit. Not everybody here is like him. Thankfully.
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Posted: 2010-06-08 23:08
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When video call came out, you had to pay extra to use it right? Even now you have to get video call credits on your contract or at least I think that is the case? Face Time is over Wifi so its free. I think that once people find out how to get video call on mobiles via Skype, things will kick off. I have seen it done on Android with some ROM cooking. Face Time is free and restricted to iPhone 4 but eventually when people work it out, Skype video in theory should work between all types of phones. Not bashing Face Time because I want it on my phone but simply thinking ahead.
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Posted: 2010-06-08 23:29
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Still don't like the look of it. Still think Apple could have done a lot better (I reckon they don't want to release all the features at once in order to milk it in future), still reckon very over priced - but regardless of all this I'm still gonna get one.

So, any news on a Jailbreak for iOS 4?

Will wait for it to be released on t-mobile though.
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Posted: 2010-06-08 23:45
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From this image I can see that it'd be a bit tough to pick the phone up. It doesn't have the spce the 2G/3G/3GS have when it's facing up. Thought it can be picked up by holding it by the sides.

@scouccer: can you imagine that jailbreak will be available in june 25th?
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Posted: 2010-06-09 00:14
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I've been spoilt since I Jailbroke my 3G a few weeks back

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Posted: 2010-06-09 00:43
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On 2010-06-08 20:18:29, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Have you read how facetime works? Have you seen any device other than Apple that offers full screen video calling at a high resolution? If you do, how many? When you find that out, that's the reason why Face Time only work on IPhone 4. By the way, Face Time is an open standard.

Have you tried SE's implementation of Video Calling? It has far more features than Face Time, for instance on my V640i that I had in 2008 (and everyone here rubbished because it wasn't a K850i) could browse folders during a video call and display pictures and video clips to the other party. Also, setting such as Night Mode were available too.

The trouble is that SE awesome features were killed off because networks were trying to sell video calling to a market who mostly would not pay extra for it. iPhone is selling to a wealthier, higher end market - well, except for those people who say "I don't like it, but I'm still going to get it". Lord knows what demographic they fit into...

Anyone else here think of Video DJ when they saw iMovie demoed? Who's worse Apple for copying all SE's innovations or SE for not putting these awesome features on decent hardware in the beginning leaving Apple such a massive opportunity?
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Posted: 2010-06-09 01:37
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^Yes, I tried video calling once for less than a minute using my SE K850i and on the other end my brother's N95 8G. It was fulll of crap. The K850's video quality was reallly poor compared to that of N95 8GB. It was not worth bothering at all because of the small screen and the video window was small too. Although Rogers offers same the rate as voice call for video call, I got charge around $1.00 CAD extra for video call since it comes seperately, which is still the same up to now. With the IPhone 4 Face Time application, people will be able to try video call for free via wi-fi and experience what a video call should have been since it was introduced - in full screen and with high quality video.

You can do this, do that on your SE phone but the question remains, how is the video call quality? The video call had been unappealing until Apple announced Iphone 4. Now video calling will be looked at differently.

Correction, it was not SE who first had video editing application on cell phones. It was Nokia with N95. So your Apple-stole-SE's-VideoDJ-idea thing is nonsense.


On 2010-06-08 22:06:52, phonecrzy wrote:

On 2010-06-08 20:18:29, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Have you read how facetime works? Have you seen any device other than Apple that offers full screen video calling at a high resolution? If you do, how many? When you find that out, that's the reason why Face Time only work on IPhone 4. By the way, Face Time is an open standard.


Oh WOW no offence but u are a real bitch!
I was just saying that the iPhone 4 should support video call to other phones. Or else there is no point having video calls as the whole world does not own a iPhone 4. I love  stuff and I'm a  fan guy. WOW UR SUCH A BITCH



If you just actually had read the info on Fasttime, I would not have said that. And let's be civil here and stop calling me names. If you can't handle my posts, don't respond to them. Besides, I do not see anything wrong with my last post as a response to yours.
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Posted: 2010-06-09 06:04
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I don't think Video DJ and iMovie are really comparable... It's a totally different league of software. iMovie blows Video DJ away. It's like Video BJ now. LOL
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Posted: 2010-06-09 21:56
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On 2010-06-08 23:45:01, tranced wrote:

From this image I can see that it'd be a bit tough to pick the phone up. It doesn't have the spce the 2G/3G/3GS have when it's facing up. Thought it can be picked up by holding it by the sides.

@scouccer: can you imagine that jailbreak will be available in june 25th?


they look very similar in fact i think the iphone 4 looks better and every phone is flat like that only a majority of new ones like Elm and Hazel but other than that no other phone (excluding the iPhone 3GS because thats old and 3G) no phone has a curved back as far as I know


On 2010-06-09 01:37:57, rss_ndrsn wrote:
If you just actually had read the info on Fasttime, I would not have said that. And let's be civil here and stop calling me names. If you can't handle my posts, don't respond to them. Besides, I do not see anything wrong with my last post as a response to yours.


Firstly, its facetime secondly i have read ur posts, i am saying the exact same thing your saying, so i say how facetime should be on pdas and smartphones BUT I SAID... it is also good that its exclusive to iphone 4 users so more people will use and buy the iPhone and im saying networks will do otherwise no matter what, its just what they do, be a pain in the a** and your telling me what i said back to me, in a rude manor. reading your posts by the way you write them it makes me think your speaking like this:
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Posted: 2010-06-09 22:03
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Well, geez. I don't like this.
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