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Guy H
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Posted: 2006-10-13 09:57
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Should we uninstall Swiss Manager to try the trial?
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Posted: 2006-10-13 10:03
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Should we uninstall Swiss Manager to try the trial?

No, the two programs can coexist, you can even run both at the same time (although no much reason to do it).
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Guy H
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Posted: 2006-10-13 10:08
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Thanks Lisa. Will give it a try. cheers for the good work.
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Posted: 2006-10-13 12:09
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Thumbs Up!
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tty56
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Posted: 2006-10-13 12:28
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Hi,

I just installed SwissPro and I really like it. One thing that would make me buy it is a shortcut (like ALT-M, or "Click the wheel"-"Press the back button") to start the "icon menu".
I have a vodaphone branded (crippled) M600i and the SwissPro would be perfect to make my phone more usable.



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Posted: 2006-10-13 12:55
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a shortcut (like ALT-M, or "Click the wheel"-"Press the back button") to start the "icon menu"

This is one of the "most wanted" features. Unfortunately the new platform security regulations grant keypress recognition only for Symbian Signed programs. However, we try to resist making our releases dependent on an external authority. A workaround will be included as soon as it is found. For now, you can just touch the screen icon for the same effect.
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tty56
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Posted: 2006-10-13 13:09
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Does that mean that you will not sign your programs? Are the costs that high?
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Posted: 2006-10-13 13:18
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Lets just say that it is not worth the cost
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Posted: 2006-10-13 13:34
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Does that mean that you will not sign your programs? Are the costs that high?

Yes, the costs are unpleasantly high (see details in symbiansigned.com). In addition, the procedure itself is slow and inconvenient in its present form and tends to seriously disturb planning. Moreover, the costs and all the hassle are recurring for each single release of the same program, meaning that any simple bugfix release would be again hampered by the procedure. This situation is one of the reasons for having such few apps for UIQ3. Many developers are going out of the platform, for good reasons. Looking at the other side, end-users are now half-excluded from their own phone (like not being able to look into certain folders), and all this is because of pressure by GSM operators who are fearing of losing control.
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tty56
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Posted: 2006-10-13 13:35
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If you get shortcuts for it??
Unfortunately the SwissPro icon is too small to tab it with my thumb. For now this feature is not useful for me then...
Johnex
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Posted: 2006-10-13 13:45
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Don't you have pen or something to tap with? How fat are you?
aloner
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Posted: 2006-10-14 05:36
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The SwissManager system tab in my M600i only shows 4096 colors. I thought the M600i screen could show up to 262k colors.
Do you guys get the same info?.
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Posted: 2006-10-14 09:15
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@aloner: some interfaces (for example when you write an sms) shows a limited number of colours cuz you don"t need more that that to write it. Same thing happened to P910i when browsing thru the menus you had only 65k and when watching videos and pictures the phone switched to 256k to have a fine resolution. The permanent switch is needed to save some energy.
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Posted: 2006-10-14 11:16
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Hehe, I think it's from different reasons.
Anyway, the new version (swissmp) shows me 16M colors... which is again not true

Btw, the P910 migth used 65K colors not because of energy consumption, but memory consumtion: 65K fits in 16 bits (2 bytes). Any higher bit depth woul dneed 4bytes (even 18bit should be stored on 32bit for faster access), but that would mean DOUBLE memory needed for the images. So I think that's why by default it uses 65K colors, and only in special cases it activates the extra bits.
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Posted: 2006-10-14 11:34
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I believe SwissMP now shows 16 million colours because the phone does work in 24-bit colour. As in 24-bit true colour (RGB888 - 8 bits per colour channel).

Technically the OS is probably 32-bit colour space, to support alpha transparency. But even 32-bit is RGB888 + 8 for alpha.

The actual LCD screen is 18-bit though, i think. hence the 262k colours displayable. That's RGB666.

When images are sent to the screen, some element of the screen or display chip dithers the RGB888 signal into RGB666 (from 8 down to 6 bits per channel). I think it might use a lookup table possibly.

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