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manypeople
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Posted: 2007-04-11 00:07
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On 2007-04-10 23:20:22, *Jojo* wrote:

On 2007-04-10 23:08:35, masseur wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled. how are the lexar ones counterfeit? perhaps your usage is different to mine as I understand counterfeit to be something made to deceive others into thinking it is something it is not, usually for profit

Lexar have have been licenced since 2000 to produce memory sticks and indeed Sony invested quite a bit in Lexar to help them when that licence started.

Licencing involves stringent requirements and lexar put their brand name on their products so they are not trying to make people think they are Sony or Sandisk



@masseur - I think LEXAR is an inferior-quality-brand of memory card Like those of: PQI and TwinMos for MMC-cards But to my surprise, I remember already seein' this brand years back Looks like they are not doin' BAD in the market after all



Mr. Massure - you are correct. And you seem incredibly knowledgable about the Lexar deal. You would also probably know that Lexar has simply OEM'ed cards from Sony until quite recently when they began their own manufacture in Singapore.

Jo-Jo - While I'm not a huge fan of Lexar, they are two or three notches above the Shanghai garage sweatshop operations we see pumping out Sony MS products.

Anyway, the Lexar question is all well and good for PRO and Duo, but you won't be seeing any Lexar M2 in the near future. Or even 2GB Sony.

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Posted: 2007-04-11 00:38
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@manny - Yeah, masseur knows just about everything when it comes to - mobile phones. Where i sthis Lexar cards made In China ? [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-04-27 18:14
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hi all, i have a problem, so i figured i would come here..

i recently bought a 4gb pro duo card for my Sony K750i off ebay for about £30, it was working great untill i tried to put a substantial amount of music on it (1gb) but only a handful of the songs would acctualy play, i cant quite remember the error message, but it was something along the lines of "failed to play media file."

feeling rather worried, i went to google. i took advice from a website (http://ilari.scheinin.fidisk.fi/blog/?p=20) and formatted the card using the "format ext. memory" function in the file manager.

however, when i lthen conected my phone to the computer, (via USB lead) the folders that the phone uses had not been re-created, as someone on here had said it should. (I read this somewhere yesterday.)

i have tried formatting it again to no avail, i have even tried copying the files from the memory card that came with the phone. (it just said the file had become corrupt when viewed in windows.

and another thing, it wouldn't work with my mum's belkin memory card reader, it just crashed explorer :S

sorry if that was a bit long...

thanks in advance!

EDIT: i have tried re-creating all the files that are on my 64mb stick (that works) manualy, only for it to say they are currupt.

[ This Message was edited by: Fat Man on 2007-04-28 11:26 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-07 01:15
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On 2007-04-27 18:14:51, Fat Man wrote:
hi all, i have a problem, so i figured i would come here..

i recently bought a 4gb pro duo card for my Sony K750i off ebay for about £30, it was working great untill i tried to put a substantial amount of music on it (1gb) but only a handful of the songs would acctualy play, i cant quite remember the error message, but it was something along the lines of "failed to play media file."

feeling rather worried, i went to google. i took advice from a website (http://ilari.scheinin.fidisk.fi/blog/?p=20) and formatted the card using the "format ext. memory" function in the file manager.

however, when i lthen conected my phone to the computer, (via USB lead) the folders that the phone uses had not been re-created, as someone on here had said it should. (I read this somewhere yesterday.)

i have tried formatting it again to no avail, i have even tried copying the files from the memory card that came with the phone. (it just said the file had become corrupt when viewed in windows.

and another thing, it wouldn't work with my mum's belkin memory card reader, it just crashed explorer :S

sorry if that was a bit long...

thanks in advance!

EDIT: i have tried re-creating all the files that are on my 64mb stick (that works) manualy, only for it to say they are currupt.

[ This Message was edited by: Fat Man on 2007-04-28 11:26 ]

Why on God's green earth do you buy memory cards on Ebay. This is probably a counterfeit. Can you post a picture?
hanugro
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Posted: 2007-05-07 03:44
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On 2007-04-10 23:20:22, *Jojo* wrote:

@masseur - I think LEXAR is an inferior-quality-brand of memory card Like those of: PQI and TwinMos for MMC-cards But to my surprise, I remember already seein' this brand years back Looks like they are not doin' BAD in the market after all



Lexar is very good memory card brand esp the pro line. If you are in dSLR world only two name stand above the rest: Sandisk and Lexar. Both company is the only one listed in KM/Sony dSLR brand as 100% certified and tested. I bet Canon and Nikon also test their dSLR with Sandisk and Lexar. Both company is locked in speed battle with their premium CF card (sandisk Extreme IV and Lexar Pro UDMA) with Lexar upcoming Pro UDMA CF look like a winner (45MBps sustained write/read speed) . Lexar are first who created Locktigth (security for CF).

The most important thing to do is to ensure you have genuine Sandisk or Lexar memory. Their premium/pro line (Extreme and Lexar Pro) have many counterfeit that may lack in speed. I rate both card about the same.

Usually ppl in computer background only knows company that make DRAM lke kingston, etc. But the flash memory is different. KM dSLR for instance never like Kingston flash. It is very slow.

Sandisk is one of the creator of flash memory so no one should doubt that brand. Lexar pro class is also very good, I have two pro 80x CF and it never fail me before. However I can't really speak about their regular memory flash as I never use it before.
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Posted: 2007-05-07 11:33
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a friend gave me his 64mb memory sitck pro duo which was not wroking in his k750i i tried reading it form my psp but could not
what could be the problem its unreadable form a card reader also
i am guessing it must be short or dead cause i could not get any thing to read it or format it

any one of you had this happen to you

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Posted: 2007-05-07 16:31
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Which is the cheapest, easily available, and robust type of memory card among DV, mini SD, micro SD, and others...
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Posted: 2007-05-14 11:45
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On 2007-05-07 16:31:00, aatuif wrote:
Which is the cheapest, easily available, and robust type of memory card among DV, mini SD, micro SD, and others...


If I had to choose, Compact Flash. At least that is the fastest and biggest capacity one with 16GB already available and 32Gb coming real soon. Not cheapest anymore since all others memory format has become quite cheap this days.

The thing I hate about this is every years new memory format being introduced while it is unnecessary to do so. Hopefully SE stop with M2 format (that is small enough and if it goes smaller some ppl may loose it. Micro-SD (trans) also already small enough.
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Posted: 2007-05-14 11:56
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i dont think they'll go any smaller now, it would just become too difficult to remove and insert them.. [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-05-17 23:21
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Great thread, thanks
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Posted: 2007-05-18 06:32
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On 2007-05-14 11:45:39, hanugro wrote:

On 2007-05-07 16:31:00, aatuif wrote:
Which is the cheapest, easily available, and robust type of memory card among DV, mini SD, micro SD, and others...


If I had to choose, Compact Flash. At least that is the fastest and biggest capacity one with 16GB already available and 32Gb coming real soon. Not cheapest anymore since all others memory format has become quite cheap this days.

The thing I hate about this is every years new memory format being introduced while it is unnecessary to do so. Hopefully SE stop with M2 format (that is small enough and if it goes smaller some ppl may loose it. Micro-SD (trans) also already small enough.

M2 and micro sd have been necessary steps for devices as small and feature packed as mobile phones. But now they need to catch up with multimedia needs by adding gigabytes rather than reducing the size.

I predict we will see M2 climb to 32GB quickly in the next few years. At 32GB, the cards will be hitting the architecture ceiling, and whole new card designs (including architecture) will need to be developed. It's likely that 32GB plus memory stick expansion ports will not be backwards compatible with sub-32GB cards.
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Posted: 2007-05-25 04:24
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M2 and micro sd have been necessary steps for devices as small and feature packed as mobile phones.

Well yes for M2 but I think mini SD is already small enough and no need for micro SD. I don't like too small since I will definitely misplace it in may chaotic desk.


I predict we will see M2 climb to 32GB quickly in the next few years. At 32GB, the cards will be hitting the architecture ceiling, and whole new card designs (including architecture) will need to be developed.

I never had more than 1GB on any memory flash that I own, CF for my dSLR, M2, SD, MMC, Xd, etc. But I will get the new 4GB CF (one of Sanddisk Extreme IV or Lexar Pro UDMA) for my next dSLR purchase later this year. I am just wondering hot it feels to have 32GB

Anyway I also think they must improve read/write speed as well. It is not funny to wait for almost 3 hr to fill up your 32GB M2 (at 3MBps).
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Posted: 2007-05-25 19:35
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Just happened to see a micro sd and whoa was shocked at its size.... i'd say this is the limit.. of miniaturisation...

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Posted: 2007-05-25 19:41
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Why did they introduce m2!? It was so much easier with pro duo! Now I cant use my 4gb stick on the k800 or 10 (dont know at the momment lol) im going to upgrade to!
iG012
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Posted: 2007-05-28 21:24
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i wanna buy a Memory Stick from ebay for my k800. could u see if it's original?? is there any problem using 2GB Micro sd in my cell?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-SANDI[....]oryZ118260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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