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Tahir Ally
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Posted: 2005-05-05 21:49
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YES.Any content that has royalties to pay will be protected by DRM.No more FREEBIES IN FUTURE.The reason the mobile manufactures are doing this is to increase mobile networks and their trade partners revenues.Nice if you are in a cell business HUH............Very soon coming to SA Full length movies on memory cards......DVDs will be discontinued soon

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uthetha ituvi
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Posted: 2005-05-05 21:49
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Unless they are able to set the handset's bluetooth parameters for only pairing with eg. headsets and document/data,not media/music formats? Just a wild guess..I'm no DRM boffin.
But yes, I think there's bound to be people finding ways around the restrictions.
Totally off the topic,and you'll have to pardon my brute ignorance, but I keep seeing my number of posts on esato diminishing. I'm using different browsers at work, at home and on the p900 when I'm out, but surely this wouldn't be the cause..?
Maybe I'll have to revert to my old esato username, which the wife won't be too pleased with,(my warped sense of humour), but I know that one works fine.
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Posted: 2005-05-05 22:06
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@utheta: I think masseur explained in another thread that post in the regional threads and mobile-free zone don't count towards posts. My posts only recently started picking up.
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Tahir Ally
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Posted: 2005-05-05 22:46
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@Brix all 3G PHONES will have DRM protection.Yes some nerds know how to bypass this and then everyone will know it and then something else will come out

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uthetha ituvi
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Posted: 2005-05-05 22:51
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Thanks, brix.
If that's the case, then I'm not too fussed. Was more curious as to why it was happening.
Any phone you fancy as the successor to your precious yet? I checked out a 6680 at the carphonewarehouse after voting in the general elections here today. Nice handset, but I'm still in no rush to get 3G, despite all the additional stuff. 2G & 2.5G suits all my phone needs at this stage.The k750 is due out at CPW at the end of this month, according to their latest catalogue.
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brix25
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Posted: 2005-05-05 23:15
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@utheta: Who you vote for? Just joking. Seriously I'm not looking at any particular phone it definitely will be 3G but won't be on Vodacom if they continue along their Vodafone live path. By next March my mind should be made up ... Thinking of Sakura might even be a Nokia.

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Posted: 2005-05-06 08:18
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NEXT MARCH???!!

so this drm thing isnt it something like what exactmobile does..? they lock the item so it cant be sent,, even through b/t???

tahir when you say 3g phones you mean vodafone phones right???

coz iv heard through the grapevine that voda might bring in unbranded phones!!!!!

i hope they dont band b/t transfer from 2g phones!!! that will suck!!!

by the way i just filled up a 1gig mem card!!! vids games music....
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Posted: 2005-05-06 08:26
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By next March the dust would've settled on all this 3G excitement. 3G phones will go the same way as all other consumer electronics, they start out being expensive but become cheaper with time...just think DVD players and now even DVD recorders(with built-in tv tuner) which have dropped in price to about R3000 for a good one.

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Tahir Ally
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Posted: 2005-05-06 08:55
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@786KBR all phones in Future will have DRM protection

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Posted: 2005-05-06 09:24
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@Tahir: All nerds in the future will be able to hack all phones with DRM. Even Apple's iTunes DRM has been hacked

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Tahir Ally
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Posted: 2005-05-06 09:41
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@ Brix i did say 6 posts back.Nerds will find a way over DRM
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Posted: 2005-05-06 10:02
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MR BRIX

the prices of electronics dropped world wide and our stronger rand kinda helped... eg plasma screen 3 yrs ago sold for 70 000 now its 20 000. but any way phone prices will increase although its dropped a bit they will be more expensive like the sharp 902!!!!
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Posted: 2005-05-06 10:34
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@Kabir: As technology becomes entrenched in the market it becomes cheaper. Ever heard of critical mass? About a month ago Tahir mentioned prices of 3G phones like the V800 and your beloved 902, within 6 months their prices will drop and that's got nothing to do with Rand strenght. Good example is my precious...in September when it was launched it sold for about R4000 ...now you can get it on Voda for R2099...the Moto V3 has also dropped in price but at a slower rate, it's much cheaper now than it was in Nov

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Posted: 2005-05-06 11:19
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mr brix

apart from electronics

UNLESS you can get the cost prices of phones(the price voda pays) and the bussiness strategies in which the price of handsets are sold/given away.......

then you should NOT comment my friend, what you read in the papers are not the prices of the phones...IT DOESNT SHOW the support voda gives, OR its their marketing strategies...

eg a moto v3 the price hasnt dropped dramaticly yet its on offer on weekend...

the prices dont drop!!! its the SP's way of getting rid of them therefore some phones might not drop depending on the public demand for the phone.... and if they dont sell they are discontinued ie nokia 7610!!!

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Posted: 2005-05-06 11:52
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LOL@Kabir...if something goes from R4000 to R2099 then what do you call that? Stop arguing and just admit that phone prices drop...and I don't think networks necessarily give them away( it's more likely for contract subs). Your V800 will drop in price come September.. And no, I'm not your friend.

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