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Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-09-13 01:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJ14NV22R8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Benchmarks over 34,000
Phone?? What phone??
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Posted: 2013-09-13 01:21
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On 2013-09-12 23:14:52, moogoo wrote:

On 2013-09-12 22:18:39, Geoffxx wrote:

On 2013-09-12 18:01:16, Sassho wrote:
250mb photo samples with last firmware by Z1 here
http://files.mail.ru/CF24F1BC06754537B6B1E45477018EEE


.exe why are you not banned from this site


there is no .exe here. it is a zip file full of jpegs..

and you really need to lay off everyone. sure, it can get repetitive, but so what. just skip the post and go to the next. no need to insult anybody.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-12 22:21 ]



lay off everyone ??? I've had a pop at two people and earlier (as many others have stated) I suggested that people really need to go look at the phone instead of coming here and having a debate about which review to believe or not or trying to convince others - it really is pointless, I have not tried to sway peoples opinion which is becoming all too common on this thread the last few days and very notably by only a few posters who constantly repeat themselves, I'll give credit were it's due like I did for you a couple of pages back but this other silly nonsense is getting rather boring, I respect your opinion and enjoy your posts but lay it on someone that deserves it
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Posted: 2013-09-13 01:23
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For those that are interested! Here is the LinK to a screen comparison between ZU, Z and Z1.

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Posted: 2013-09-13 01:26
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On 2013-09-12 21:32:53, moogoo wrote:
how bout instead of waiting for reviews.. you just go and try it out at a store when you can? trust your own eyes and impressions. you've already heard 1st hand reviews from your fellow esato users who have gone and tried it themselves.

it's just funny how many people rely on reviews instead of their own experiences.



exactly my point
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Posted: 2013-09-13 01:31
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On 2013-09-13 01:23:58, DACHA wrote:
For those that are interested! Here is the LinK to a screen comparison between ZU, Z and Z1.




ZU definitely has the BEST screen both in color gamut, contrast, and viewing angles. Z1 seems improved over the Z, but much closer to the Z than the ZU, which is a shame. Though, it won't deter me from purchasing it
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Posted: 2013-09-13 02:15
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Dude... It's really annoying that sheeps whimpering in all Sony related threads.
We can't even read three or four posts sequentially with something really coherent.

Are you nervous?
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Posted: 2013-09-13 02:55
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Why doesn't the Z1 have a screen of the same quality as the Z ultra.
Look at that. That is basically a perfect screen.
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Posted: 2013-09-13 02:57
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who knows XYZ.. why don't you give Kaz a call on his Z-Ultra and ask him?
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Posted: 2013-09-13 02:58
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On 2013-09-13 02:57:04, moogoo wrote:
who knows XYZ.. why don't you give Kaz a call on his Z-Ultra and ask him?


I doubt Kaz has much to do with this....He can't be everywhere, doing everything.....
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Posted: 2013-09-13 03:00
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On 2013-09-12 22:40:57, Geoffxx wrote:
XYZ just leave it and I will give you a complete honest opinion of the Z1 when I get it next week and if it is not to my expectations you will hear me loud and clear, I had a XZU for a few weeks so there's a big hole to fill there except for the camera - I also had a XZ so I'm in a prime position to compare all three and believe me I will


if what you're saying is true, i'm really thankful that there are still sony fans who remain objective. all these major lapses need to be exposed to blinded sony fans. it really pains me to know that china phones have better displays and even bigger batteries. the lenovo p series have 4000mah without being too thick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8bK_lKcKko
xperia z1 discussion on the 40 min mark
they show the z1 having a score of 35k+


also, here the xz ultra display flaws are presented by this quite objective lady. although she's saying she still likes the ultra very much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]&list=UUB2527zGV3A0Km_quJiUaeQ
skip to the 13 min mark

*sorry for posting this zu vid on the z1 thread. it's a response to those who reference it as the perfect display. just showing that nothing is perfect even if they already look perfect on our first impressions. even the color gamut of the xzu is not as wide as the galaxy s4's. it's only slightly wider than that of sRGB, as shown in other videos in that youtube account.

the girl in that vid does her own tests. i don't know how but she is able to come up with numbers. you can ask her. she's quite quick in responding to her audience. i really hope she gets a z1 to review.
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Posted: 2013-09-13 03:16
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On 2013-09-13 02:58:04, -XYZ wrote:

On 2013-09-13 02:57:04, moogoo wrote:
who knows XYZ.. why don't you give Kaz a call on his Z-Ultra and ask him?


I doubt Kaz has much to do with this....He can't be everywhere, doing everything.....


Exactly. That being said, he has more influence that any of us here have. Just poking fun at your question to esato members/visitors as if any of us have the answers you seek anything anyone gives you here would be pure speculation.

i just find humor in all this

@miromiro - nice ZU vid. though i'm not sure why you posted it here in this thread. I've never had a non-sony phone since before dumbphones got color screens, so i can't say what others do. But, in my experience Sony screens seem to be much brighter than others. Possibly too bright when viewing in a complete dark room if you set it at 100%. But that brightness is necessary for viewing the screen in direct sunlight. I just tested the same thing she did in the video with my XS. It shows the same results. But, when I turn my brightness down to a reasonable level for the somewhat dark room that I'm in.. blacks stay black.

Is it a flaw? is it a defect? Like i said, i can't say cause i'e never had a non-sony phone and i'm not a screen tech guru. But I know I use my phone more in direct sunlight than i'm watching a dark movie/show in pitch darkness. You can always turn brightness down (i.e., calibrate it for your viewing environment) but you can't make the screen brighter in direct sunlight when you need it most.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-13 02:40 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-13 04:54
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I completely agree with moogoo.
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Posted: 2013-09-13 05:50
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looks like Z1 will launch in India sept. 18th and available in Singapore oct. 4. so much for global release in september..

though i think the exact language was global release starting september.. tricky sony... tricky indeed. i hope there's some kind of US announcement soon! C6906.. where are you!?!
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Posted: 2013-09-13 06:02
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Uh guys, when it comes to screen, from my experience it is quite pointless to look at comparison through videos or photos. I always wait for a retail unit and look at it with my own eyes before I decide. Why? simply because photos and videos do not accurately show how actually good or bad the screen is.

Another thing, about the contrast ratio 600:1, those are nothing but numbers. They do not tell how good a screen is. It is exactly similar when you look at specs for headphones with the frequency response in kHZ, those DO NOT dictate the quality, you'll have to hear it play music to judge just like what most audiophiles do. Same with screen, you need to look at it yourself before you judge.

If you all don't like the Z1, then simply don't buy it, problem solved. Last I checked, we do not dictate what a company should do, we like their product? then we buy them, we don't like their product? then we don't buy them. Screen quality has been debated over and over and over again, there's no point in further whining, we get your point.

@miromiro

I've seen that vid, it was posted in the ZU thread here at esato, now this is my opinion, but I don't trust her, she also posted at XDA forums bragging that her methods are scientific and that GsmArena a reputable site, knows nothing about screen testing and that GsmArena tests are wrong (quite a huge claim without any evidence). Furthermore in her review, she complains light bleeding on ZU when viewing at 100% brightness at a pitch black environment. What do you expect? of course you will see light bleed by deliberately maxing out brightness and then viewing it at pitch black environment, Who does that anyway? you'd ruin your eyes doing that, It's the same as miscalibrating the screen and then complaining it is bad.
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Posted: 2013-09-13 06:03
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here's your speaker comparison:

z1 vs htc one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]buffer75cf9&utm_medium=twitter


edited:

i really agree with mogoo about speaker quality on a phone. it doesn't really matter that much because it's supposed to be for notifications only. who likes listening to a phone's loudspeaker to enjoy music? that's never satisfying. still, i'm posting it here for those who want to hear how sony's loudspeaker has improved.

what really matters for me is the audio outputted by the audio jack. also, the compatibility of the audio jack with different headsets and speakers. we've heard about compatibility issues with xperia audio jacks before.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2013-09-13 05:51 ]
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