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tonylcc
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On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:
- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS
This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...
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Lonewolf223
Joined: Dec 24, 2017
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I agree with tony on this one
The camera expectations are too high but rest of the specs are doable with current technology |
tai020381
Joined: Dec 07, 2004
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On 2019-01-30 04:22:45, tonylcc wrote:
On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:
- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS
This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...
Sounds like you need a camera
4gb ram is not enough. Minimum 8gb sounds better. Sunlight legibility above 4000 . 32gb internal storage is too little too. Minimum 128gb. |
AlvinZahranM
Joined: Apr 06, 2015
Posts: > 500
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On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:
- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS
This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...
1. Micro LED (or Crystal LED if you prefer) is almost impossible to develop for phones right now.
2. AI term used in phones are gimmicky, I hope you meant deep learning for autofocus.
3. Titanium frame? I really hope you meant titanium alloy since Titanium alone can't be used as a standalone material, the colour will be dull. Besides, the phone would get too heavy and people will complain (again). It is impossible to get colours other than the colour of the titanium itself (grey)
4. It's also impossible to make 1/2.3" sensor size for front camera since the bezels would get much bigger (unlrss sony is adapting sliding mechanism). The more important thing is still the algorithm, not how big the sensor size is.
5. For optical zoom in smartphone, we still need a telephoto sensor. It's still a fake Optical zoom if they don't use a telephoto sensor.
6. Smartphone cameras don't work like digital cameras. Phone cameras don't have the same lens type as dslr/mirrorless cameras, they don't have variable (adjustable) lens angle. Your phone is going to look like galaxy nx or galaxy camera if you want variable angle. So again, telephoto is needed for smartphones if you need optical zoom, at least for now.
7. 32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, and 16:9 ratio aren't up to par with today's standards. 64 or 128GB is the absolute minimum for ROM.
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2019-01-30 04:33 ] Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max
Secondary: vivo X80 Pro
Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2
Still using (not as much): Galaxy Tab A 8.0 |
tonylcc
Joined: May 21, 2017
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I want vibranium for the frame and powered by arc reactor
Built-in Friday 
That's what you guys want as well, I guess? 
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herasymcuk
Joined: Nov 02, 2008
Posts: 159
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On 2019-01-30 01:50:00, Nevewolf wrote:
Main functions of AUBE:
- Portrait mode - not necessarily using the ToF sensor
- High sensitivity in photos exactly
- High sensitivity in videos exactly
Without AUBE:
Bokeh:
If the rumor of Pixel Dual in the sensor is true, it would no longer need AUBE to create the mapping. (Google Pixel Mode) (besides the ToF sensor can do it too)
High sensitivity in photos:
At this point we already know that it is possible with a good software algorithm. never like with the presence of a monochromatic sensor that allows you to have a very high detail.
High sensitivity in videos:
At this time is the only reason to continue using Aube, BUT only if there is a monochrome sensor. exactly
The Aube chip is used to "merge" the data of the two sensors into a single image and exploit the "different angles of the two sensors" to recreate depth of field. So... if Sony wants the to continue using a multi-camera setup, the implementing of the aube chip is needed. Unless it want to use them differently as the other manufacturers, where each sensor is used individually. (in most cases). |
XperiaX
Joined: Feb 10, 2018
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My wishes:
- XZ4 with around 6" OLED and slim top/bottom bezels. 120 Hz. 21:9 looks interesting, but avoid too big size.
- Fastest possible internal storage - 128 GB
- 6 GB RAM
- SD855
- Mat metal finish (mat black, mat polished metal, white painted)
- 3 sensors - color, B/W, TOF.
- AUBE 2 + Bionz X(2).
- 10bit, 1080P @ 30/60 FPS. HDR downsampled from 4K. EIS. I prefer "good" 1080P to 4K.
- Fastest possible hybrid AF including new AF technology from Alpha-series (Eye, Face tracking).
- Real manual camera options - up to 30 sec. shutter etc. New interface with manual memory settings.
- Desktop/PC mode with USB connection to monitor (data, power, display signal)
- "Real" water resistance to 10m depth in any kind of water - or some new under water accessory...
- Side mounted FPS. Still think this is best solution.
- Avoid calling things AI...
- XZ4 Compact with slower SOC (SD710), ~5,2" FHD LCD, slim bezels, color sensor + TOF, fast AF, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB storage, mat metal/plastic finish.
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Lonewolf223
Joined: Dec 24, 2017
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I would also like to see the metal finish coming back
Remember xz made up of a new kind of alloy..
And they perfected the rear panel with xz1 but it only lasted a single generation
A 6 inch 21:9 display with the bezels as in xz4
Thickness can go upto a maximum of 9mm
Stereo speakers as in mate 20 x setup
Triple cam with regular telephoto and tof
At least 3500mah battery
Front facing tof for face recognition and side mounted fps
Brighter oled displays with max brightness of 700 nits
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Hawk12
Joined: Nov 29, 2018
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When I say I'd like 4+32 is because it's enough for me.
Most of my apps were moved to the iPad.
From the 32Gb (27 usable) just 13,3 is being used.
I do not know how 21:9 feels, I hope it's not as awful as 4:3.
Videos on iPad are joke.
Even 1080p look too poor.
Yes, I meant AI to improve AF like they're doing for A6400 and A9.
Canon believes cam marketshare will go down 50% until 2021.
So they need to let Xperia kill RX100 ...
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pmugghc
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From Phonearena:
https://www.phonearena.com/ne[....]peria-XZ4-camera-leak_id113273 |
badassmam
Joined: Nov 07, 2007
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Some of these wish lists are too much for Sony, expect XZ3 type specs with the next set of evolution in terms of hardware. I wish that they fit in my pocket and that when I sit down I don't look excited which is important because I do lots of meetings with all sorts of people.
Also, I sold my Huawei P Smart and have a short term XA2 and my God it is awful coming from the XZ2 Compact to this. It feels 10 years behind in every single aspect so I would be tempted to say make this junk low range or don't even make it. The XA3 would be better off with XZ1 or XZ2 hardware in a cheaper body, that would be so much better than this and probably much cheaper in terms of development. I'll never buy a mid range again, a 2 year old flagship is billion times better. |
ADIDA
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I hope 16mp is monocrome sensor..... |
Hawk12
Joined: Nov 29, 2018
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SD660 is bit above 810 and below 820.
670 would be better choice.
Much newer.
660 is Q2 2017.
Buks says 52 + 16 + 0.3 is not correct ...
I still think setup is 666 + 379 + tof
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Ppl
Joined: Mar 04, 2018
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Well, it was just a guess but I still think 26 and 52 make more sense as focal length. Plus iphones had the exact same mms for regular and zoom lenses.
The 666 could be a round sensor and if it's 1/1.5 it means 0.666 diagonal. Why would they insist on 6 that much, it's weird. |
Lonewolf223
Joined: Dec 24, 2017
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What does the code mean then?
Tony has been silent for a while now..
I just went through weibo and i think it is zackbuks who has posted about the spec sheet which popped up earlier.. Including the battery capacity of 4400
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