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etaab
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I would completely disagree. The iPhone is aimed at the masses, thats why it is so simple in its operation and use. It appeals to anyone who likes all the flashy bells and whistles of its interface and a built in genuine iPod.
The iPhone has been labelled a smartphone ever since its upgrade came out which allowed third party apps. I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS, but still wouldnt label it a true smartphone. It still lacks basic functions like Bluetooth file transfers. Its ridiculous.
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end - low resolution camera (and its lack of hardware aspects such as a lens cover, photo light.. software aspects such as all the customisable options you'd get on a normal cameraphone), poor quality mono-speaker, removable battery, silly sim card holder. On the software side theres so much missing, but the most important one for me is multitasking. How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone when you cannot even type a sms message whilst keeping other apps running in the background.
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FISKER_Q
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Look, i hate iPhone just as much as the next guy, but there's no denying their hardware, it may not have a top of the line camera, i don't even care for a camera. It did however both include accelerometer and a digital compass in the hardware, pretty early, and honestly the rest isn't even related to their hardware as such.
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chenmartin
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anonymuser
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On 2009-11-25 22:56:58, etaab wrote:
I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS... How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone
Huh?
People (like you) call the iPhone a smartphone because it is a smartphone. There is not, and never has been, a hard and fast definition of that term which demands things like multitasking or supporting bluetooth file transfers - it's just a term that can be fairly applied to any phone open to development and use beyond traditional phone functions, which the iPhone platform clearly is - so much so that there exists an iPhone that's not actually an phone at all (the iPod Touch).
Since you've brought it up, the iPhone does multitask - for instance you can have a page loading in Safari in the background while you listen to your ipod and compose an email - the OS is perfectly capable of that. The restriction is simply that third party apps sold through the appstore cannot run in the background, because the SDK ensures they're written that way.
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end
Sorry yes, I forgot that it was the Sony Ericsson X10 that first introduced a glass capacitive screen, multitouch, digital compass, accelerometer and proximity sensor...
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clobar
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On 2009-11-26 08:24:25, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-11-25 22:56:58, etaab wrote:
I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS... How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone
Huh?
People (like you) call the iPhone a smartphone because it is a smartphone. There is not, and never has been, a hard and fast definition of that term which demands things like multitasking or supporting bluetooth file transfers - it's just a term that can be fairly applied to any phone open to development and use beyond traditional phone functions, which the iPhone platform clearly is.
PS - for info, the iPhone does multitask - for instance you can have a page loading in Safari in the background while you listen to your ipod and compose an email - the OS is perfectly capable of that. The restriction is simply that third party apps sold through the appstore cannot run in the background (because they're written that way).
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end
Sorry yes, I forgot that it was the Sony Ericsson X10 that first introduced a glass capacitive screen, multitouch, digital compass, accelerometer and proximity sensor...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-11-26 07:36 ]
In that case all SE phones are Smartphones, they can run JAVA applications just fine, and do just about everything a iPhone can. On top of that they actually handled multitasking, and have done so for a long time...
Talking about iPhone, here is a size comparison on youtube. I don't understand a word of what he is saying, but it seems that he likes how it feels in his hand.
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bider
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Finally nice comparison  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFVbEDHMhPk
 Unofficial SonyEricssonClub.plT10 -> T65 -> T310 -> T610 -> T630 -> K700 -> P910 -> P990 -> P1i -> Xperia X1 + C702 -> Xperia X10 mini + Xperia X10!!! What can I say... I'm maniac!! |
anonymuser
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On 2009-11-26 08:55:50, clobar wrote:
In that case all SE phones are Smartphones, they can run JAVA applications just fine,
The iPhone, like everything else ever called a smartphone, runs apps in its native OS - meaning apps written for the platform run directly on the phone. JAVA isn't a native OS, just a bolt-on virtual machine.
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Full article - http://techblog.gr/mobile/xpe[....]s-hd2-vs-omnia-ii-vs-3gs-5211/
This comparison proves that X10 is one of the most beautiful devices in the world.
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synn
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On 2009-11-26 10:22:47, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-11-26 08:55:50, clobar wrote:
In that case all SE phones are Smartphones, they can run JAVA applications just fine,
The iPhone, like everything else ever called a smartphone, runs apps in its native OS - meaning apps written for the platform run directly on the phone. JAVA isn't a native OS, just a bolt-on virtual machine.
lol, Java was created for the sole purpose of writing one set of code that can run on any machine irrespective of the OS it's running. Jesusphone on the other hand is not smart enough to generate a turn-by-turn route and some calculations on the, er... calculator at once. Natively programmed or otherwise.
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sealover94
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Yeahhh techblog is the best 
He says on the video that the loud speaker is too small and he is not sure that it has a front camera (at least at this prototype).
He also says that it has a very nice design that makes tha phone to fit in your hand
And MADE IN CHINA 
I remember the good old days when my P800 was made in FRANCE..... 
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anonymuser
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On 2009-11-26 11:18:44, synn wrote:
lol, Java was created for the sole purpose of writing one set of code that can run on any machine irrespective of the OS it's running.
Yes... and? It's not an OS, it's a virtual machine - like I said. Either you believe that pretty much every phone made after 2002(?) is a smartphone, or you discount Java for the limited bolt-on that it is.
Jesusphone on the other hand is not smart enough to generate a turn-by-turn route and some calculations on the, er... calculator at once. Natively programmed or otherwise.
Although in practice it will generate that turn-by-turn route and switch to the calculator and back in probably less time than it takes some "multitasking" phones to complete the same task, while also processing push notifications for other apps (travel alerts for example), and generally being a hell of a lot nicer to use.
But sure, keep grasping at the straws.
Yep, slim pickings indeed.
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Karun
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PS3 Remote Play for X10 - A possibility?
Sony Ericsson has hinted that it could launch a "PS3" app similar to that found on the Sony Ericsson Aino handset launched earlier in the year for the Android OS, when the company's new Xperia X10 handset launches in February.
Christopher David, head of developer and partner engagement at Sony Ericsson, said “It makes a lot of sense for it to be on other handsets. It should be expected".
So far, the PS3 app runs on the Aino’s Nexus UX platform, allowing users to access the PS3 from the phone and stream content to their handset from anywhere in the world. The X10 already sports the same DLNA and wireless connectivity as the Aino, plus has a fast 1GHz Snapdragon processor and four-inch screen – all well suited to gamers.
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/29662/ps3-remote-play-for-android
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MyP910
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judging from the Techblog video review.... to me, at this moment, X10 design is the most beautiful.
btw, even though X10 has only 65k colour...but from that video, the display quality is the best compared to iphone and HD2. The quality is very significant when he compared the application screen (shortcuts) between X10, iphone and HD2.
I think, in terms of screen quality, SE has done a good job. |
snoFlake
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Rather than slagging Apple like a series of scratched records why can't we all speculate on how the other manufacturers could emmulate/counter their success.
After all, dramatically increasing market share, huge proprtion of group think and the largest profits both in absolute and per device terms all based around one device and only one software platform to maintain - looks like they is doing something right - CEO of SE must have wet dreams about being in such a position.
I think the ignorance and blindness of many of the fanbois here has echoed SE's own complacency and short sightedness, they like others failed to spot that the iPhone, it's UI, it's AppStore, the way it was marketed and the way it was upgraded and supported over it's cycle were game changers. Apple understood this and saw that the public were really ready for phones to inerract with the internet and use all those 3G masts the operators paid so much to licence and errect. What they needed was maybe not the smartest of phones but one theat was smart enough for them to customise a bit (but not so much they borked it) offered great access to the web (and it's still pretty much the best browser) and was above all stable, non geek users just want their phone to work and not require a battery pull every half hour - heck I want that.
Yes the iPhone may be not the ultimate phone in any given field (barring profiatbility and sales ) but it's pretty good in most and in the intervening 2+ years since it's launch rather than whining about it how come no one has been able to match/surpass it yet. I think some of the new 'doid 2.0 stuff - Milestone etc. is pretty close, but that took Motorola being so close to disaapearing that they had nothing to lose by chucking all their eggs in one basket and throwing all their resources behind Android. Something that SE have left it too late to do (there will be/are too many producers using Android, can SE compete against Sammie/ Dell/ Lenovo in chucking out handsets? How are theirs going to be different?? - Look at the trouble Sony's Vaio line is in) meanwhile they've been fiddling around with 3/4 OS's and not excelling/ achieving competence in any of them apart from Axxx which is excellent or achieving cost of scale.
SE were among the first if not the 1st mover in touch screens - what did they do with that, Sony were first with personal music players but look what the iPod did to them, heck SE by putting out walkman phones almost forced Apple into the phone business so it really shouldn't have come as a shock. Apple rarely innovate but and it's a whopper they do tie tech together brilliantly so that it can be adopted by the mass market and that's where the cash is. If SE is so innovative nowadays (and I think they or Ericsson were early 2000's) how come they have been unable to respond or seemingly not see that a response was necessary rather than plodding out feature phones. Now thanks to their abandonment of UIQ they have no proprietary smartphone OS to differentiate themselves, they stumble onto WM just as it's market share is crashing (post iPhone people have worked out it's UI is vile) it looks like they may be dropping it before WM7 comes out and now they're joning the stampede onto Android about six months to a year after the herd. It's no way to run a business amd to be honest I'm not sure which way they should turn now they have gotten themselves in such a tangle. I can't see how they will be able to compete on Android, other volume producers are just going to kill them on price. Nokia may be making a balls of their handsets and software but I think at least they see the problem and are trying to navigate a new course with their services offerings (not sure it's going to work tho) but SE just seem to be blundering around trying to catch up with the latest fashion. |
anonymuser
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+1 snoflake, +1.
More and more often, the atmosphere in this forum (and around SE in general) reminds me of that much-parodied bunker scene in Downfall. By some of the recent posts in this thread, you'd imagine that the iPhone was still a far-off threat to be crushed by the mighty X10 army, any day now. But you know what? The iPhone's been on the march for two years. It's taken every strategic stronghold already - the public mindshare, the developer support, the sales. Apple are already in Berlin, knocking on the door of the bunker, and the "war" is all but over with nary a single shot fired by SE.
The question now is not how SE can beat the iPhone, but how SE can continue to survive beneath an already utterly dominant iPhone, as just another (expensive) Android option. Multitasking or not.
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