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pt020
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Posted: 2012-02-27 21:40
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Until now Sony copied 3 things from Apple and they should be sued for it .
unremovable battery
No memory card
New headphones plug
odoylefm
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Posted: 2012-02-27 21:55
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Regarding the internal storage on the Xperia U, the global product page shows "Flash memory: 16GB eMMC" in addition to "8 GB (up to 4 GB user-accessible memory)."
http://www.sonymobile.com/cws[....]rtfolio/specification/xperia-u
mediar
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:02
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On 2012-02-27 21:40:12, pt020 wrote:
Until now Sony copied 3 things from Apple and they should be sued for it .
unremovable battery
No memory card
New headphones plug


+ microsim
The best mobile phone brand died with Sony Ericsson's death. Shame on you Sony for killing it! And, of course, for ruining the Xperia brand...
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:07
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On 2012-02-27 20:32:27, worf1000 wrote:

On 2012-02-27 19:24:26, io_bg wrote:

On 2012-02-27 19:14:28, worf1000 wrote:
Believe me, there is no such 41 sensors from Sony/Nikon/Panasonic and all other electronics concerns has non such 41 sensor for their camera's like DSLR

So NO!!!! No 41 mega pixel otherwise we already see in Sony/Nikon device already.
Nokia use just software that bump the resolution to 41 Mega pixel resolution.

Otherwise, give me some proof.
[ This Message was edited by: worf1000 on 2012-02-27 18:14 ]



Just read here. The sensor's size is 1/1.2" and I don't think any other camera uses the same one. The closest to this is Nikon's CX format which uses 1" sensors with 2.7 crop factor found on their mirrorless cameras (they have only 10 MP though).
[ This Message was edited by: io_bg on 2012-02-27 18:27 ]



I said, give me proof where 41 mega pixel sensors are true, because i can't found them. 25 or 28 mega pixel is the highest they have in stand alone camera's .

So, give me some proof that a 41 mega pixel sensor module Give me a picture of that sensor.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor
MNX1024
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:13
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I do have to say, Nokia really got everyone this time in MWC. I was just expecting a 16-18mp, not 41mp. I'm assuming they're using pixel binning in the 808.


On 2012-02-27 20:32:27, worf1000 wrote:
I said, give me proof where 41 mega pixel sensors are true, because i can't found them. 25 or 28 mega pixel is the highest they have in stand alone camera's .

So, give me some proof that a 41 mega pixel sensor module Give me a picture of that sensor.


Here's your proof that the sensor is indeed 41MP, unless you don't believe a single word Nokia is saying to the world:
http://press.nokia.com/2012/0[....]olution-in-smartphone-imaging/

And, before you keep yammering about how 25 or 28 megapixel is the highest in stand alone cameras, please Google Nikon D800. Food for thought, that sensor Nikon is using is from Sony.
io_bg
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:24
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On 2012-02-27 20:32:27, worf1000 wrote:
I said, give me proof where 41 mega pixel sensors are true, because i can't found them. 25 or 28 mega pixel is the highest they have in stand alone camera's .

So, give me some proof that a 41 mega pixel sensor module Give me a picture of that sensor.

If you can't find pictures of the sensor it doesn't mean it's non-existing. Here is the phone itself, the box next to it contains three sensors used in cell phones and the one at the low right is 808's.



Edit: oops, seems I forgot to add the image link.
[ This Message was edited by: io_bg on 2012-02-27 22:10 ]
lolstebbo
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:28
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On 2012-02-27 22:13:05, MNX1024 wrote:
And, before you keep yammering about how 25 or 28 megapixel is the highest in stand alone cameras, please Google Nikon D800. Food for thought, that sensor Nikon is using is from Sony.



To be fair, the D800 isn't actually on the market yet.....

That said, the fact that a 41 MP camera has been announced for market makes me cringe and cry.
goldenface
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:29
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On 2012-02-27 22:02:19, mediar wrote:

On 2012-02-27 21:40:12, pt020 wrote:
Until now Sony copied 3 things from Apple and they should be sued for it .
unremovable battery
No memory card
New headphones plug


+ microsim



Sony's NW-MS7 had a built in battery way back in 1999. The iPod wasn't announced until 2001.

Are you saying that Apple also made the first ever device with built in memory and didn't copy it from anyone else?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2012-02-27 21:46 ]
Tigon
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:36
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ok Nokia made this great camera phone, but honestly who cant with 20 mm thickness area. now if this phone was 10 mm thick then that would be impressive so I dont really understand why all the commotion, Samsung, Sony, even apple can match or beat this if they didn't mind making the ctamera area 20 mm thick.
NightBlade
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:42
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That's true, actually. You need a sensor that's double in diagonal to go from 12 to 48MP. That should amount to even less than double the thickness.
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Posted: 2012-02-27 22:59
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On 2012-02-27 22:07:55, 5tephane wrote:

On 2012-02-27 20:32:27, worf1000 wrote:

On 2012-02-27 19:24:26, io_bg wrote:

On 2012-02-27 19:14:28, worf1000 wrote:
Believe me, there is no such 41 sensors from Sony/Nikon/Panasonic and all other electronics concerns has non such 41 sensor for their camera's like DSLR

So NO!!!! No 41 mega pixel otherwise we already see in Sony/Nikon device already.
Nokia use just software that bump the resolution to 41 Mega pixel resolution.

Otherwise, give me some proof.
[ This Message was edited by: worf1000 on 2012-02-27 18:14 ]



Just read here. The sensor's size is 1/1.2" and I don't think any other camera uses the same one. The closest to this is Nikon's CX format which uses 1" sensors with 2.7 crop factor found on their mirrorless cameras (they have only 10 MP though).
[ This Message was edited by: io_bg on 2012-02-27 18:27 ]



I said, give me proof where 41 mega pixel sensors are true, because i can't found them. 25 or 28 mega pixel is the highest they have in stand alone camera's .

So, give me some proof that a 41 mega pixel sensor module Give me a picture of that sensor.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor


I said a picture from sensor module itself not from Wikipedia info
Give some picture what type of sensor module it is what Nokia use, nothing more.

Come on, is it so difficult? I really want to see that
S4k1s
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Posted: 2012-02-27 23:07
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On 2012-02-27 22:29:31, goldenface wrote:

On 2012-02-27 22:02:19, mediar wrote:

On 2012-02-27 21:40:12, pt020 wrote:
Until now Sony copied 3 things from Apple and they should be sued for it .
unremovable battery
No memory card
New headphones plug


+ microsim



Sony's NW-MS7 had a built in battery way back in 1999. The iPod wasn't announced until 2001.

Are you saying that Apple also made the first ever device with built in memory and didn't copy it from anyone else?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2012-02-27 21:46 ]


Until now Apple copied 3 things from Ericsson (T65) and they should be sued for it .
unremovable battery
no memory card
sim slot in a slot at the top of the phone

+ usage of a sim card

I'm just sayin...
io_bg
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Posted: 2012-02-27 23:11
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On 2012-02-27 22:59:19, worf1000 wrote:
Give some picture what type of sensor module it is what Nokia use, nothing more.

Come on, is it so difficult? I really want to see that

See my previous post.
goldenface
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Posted: 2012-02-27 23:16
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@S4k1s

I salute you sir.
motvikt
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Posted: 2012-02-27 23:19
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Wonder what happened to the pepper? Did Sony cancel it because of the different design?

@rog, is it canceled?
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