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Posted: 2008-07-31 05:03
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Upon reading eldar's C905 vs Innov8 preview, I feel that SE is deliberately lambasted by Eldar. not to mention the moment he implied that C905 uses cheaper module from Samsung. lets wait until the final 8mp showdown happens, then we could see who will reign the throne
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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:03
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Eldar supposedly has the final version of the C905 firmware.

Why isnt the phone already in production then?

Then again, when all the review sites praised the C905's construction, mobile-review dismisses it. This is really sad. the C905 has been accused of involving cheap plastics in its sliders. I doubt the credibility. Btw, what if Eldar is right about the Samsung sensor?? :|
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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:30
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Some people are sooo obnoxious that they want to believe the siberian twit no matter what, if he is right or wrong. The whole world incl. all the high fly tech magazines all over the world have praised the C905 yet we have people dismissing it because of this twit.

You can't satisfy those people who tend to believe him just for the heck of it. If this fool has the final version, which I totally doubt, how come there is no preview from his end. He has made previews of samsung's INNOV8, the walkman series that was announced but nothing with regards to the C905, since day 1 he has only been negative about it.

The C905 uses a SONY sensor plain and simple. And if people just can't believe in the truth and want to believe in mediocre krap by the siberian twit, be my guest. I've been reading for quite sometime that people are bashing SE against NOKIA (Not, Outstanding, Kicked In Ass) Company.

Just to summarize alittle between SE and Nokia.

SE - 1st company to launch a 1.3 megapixel camera, far superior to Nokia.
1st company to bring out 2 megapixel camera.
1st company to introduce autofocus.
1st company to bring out QVGA rec. with dedicated graphics card.
1st company to bring image stabilization/video stabilization
1st company to bring out xenon flash in a mobile phone
1st company to bring out a 3.2 megapixel camera
1st company whos handset is certified DLNA

Nokia - Just made 1 stupid N95 which has all the above intro. by SE

What has Nokia intro. besides VGA video rec. and Nokia Maps (GPS), as SE intro. QVGA, then Nokia went ahead and intro. VGA and after which nothing. Then they implemented all the above which was intro. by SE incl. the 2 by Nokia into the N95.

The only place where they lost was with the K850 and you learn from your past mistakes. And so they have.

So, SE has been the innovative leader and still is. As well last yr they got the award for best GSM handset in the world. What has Nokia received so far. As well they introduced the bluetooth watch and countless other accessories which are far superior to Nokia.

As SE made 1 thing more which no one has done till date. They invented the whole Bluetooth. Which is used by everyone person & company.

So for the half hearted who have ill to say about SE, I say go shove it somewhere else as in the big league Nokia just Sucks big frggin time.

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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:34
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Eldar said the samsung was better (like some of its new phones) and se being typical se.
I dont see a problem with his preview.

EDIT:The guy has been around for long time ,show some respect.Even if you dont like him dont foul mouth,disagree in a civilized way.
This brand fanaticism is going too far.

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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:43
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but there's this article at SMAPE referring to a person that's really getting back at Sony Ericsson. i do have a hunch they were referring to Eldar.
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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:48
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And if from this day forward, nothing would seem good coming from eldar with regards to SE you really can't help but to think that there's something going on.
micks2005
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Posted: 2008-07-31 06:56
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Fine the guys has been around for awhile, I have no problem with that but there is one thing that all you guys lack.

"You never give credit where credit is due."

And people are always Bias. This has been proven with Eldar as well, that now he is totally Bias against SE and so are his previews. So you can't expect a non-bias review from him regarding the fone, since day 1 he has made his intentions clear.

Funny thing he said, that Nokia would announce their 8MP cam-fone in sep and then release it 1 week later which would be far better then SE, but just to go on the facts abit, other sites have categorically mentioned that Nokia would be releasing their 8MP shooter next yr and there "Hello Operation" as Eldar put it is for next yr, when Nokia would release 8MP, SE would be releasing their 10MP.

And as for the whole foul mouth, I don't foul mouth, ... but it's like to all of you, he plays the piper and your all his rats, following him to oblivion.
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People,there is absolutely no confirmation whatsoever of se, or sony for that matter, manufacturing a 8mp camera module for a cellphone ! ! ! Both my emails to sony got negative answers ! Please,if anyone here has any serious prove of such module,post it here. I am not only into cellphones but miniature cameras too. I visit camera/surveliance forums and yes I have plenty confirmation regarding the Samsung 'hitech' 8mp 'micro' modul, but none about sony/se Does it use a cmos or ccd sensor?What is the pixel size? What is the overall size? etc etc.
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Posted: 2008-07-31 07:16
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Alittle reminder ...

Sony Ericsson & Sony do not disclose what's under the hood, so to speak. As even at the press announcements they didn't disclose that, and even if you email them and ask them, you would and will and shall always get a negative answer.

As I know ... and here alittle info to you, I work at Sony Ericsson so I know.

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Posted: 2008-07-31 07:29
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Guys, I think you should take micks2005 fairly seriously. The man has gotten things right before and has proven pretty trustworthy. I'd believe him a lot more than Eldar, who seems to have lost his mind recently.

I mean, honestly when you read what Eldar says, don't you get the feeling he doesn't really know what hes on about? Then what Smape has been saying fits in with Eldar's recent words... And yet you still believe him?!
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Posted: 2008-07-31 08:04
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wheew...

i think he has major point.... the first time i read Eldars que on this?! hmmm it smelled like a raccoon crap with onions....

i hate to say this but i think the guy has his emotions really towards SE. i dunno why...

but now i think i have sumthing or rather sumone to compare him with... and this will balance my judgement as to what gadget would really has wot and has it running under the hood.

lets see wot happens later this year...

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Posted: 2008-07-31 09:28
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@micks
can you tell us the expecting price for c905?
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Posted: 2008-07-31 10:05
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On 2008-07-31 09:28:55, darknoob wrote:
@micks
can you tell us the expecting price for c905?


In the live Q&A, a SE representative said that it would be around K850's starting price.

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micks2005
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Posted: 2008-07-31 10:19
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As I shall Quote :

"SE is not without the operators involved as the price is set by them in conjunction with us" ... "the expected price of the set will be more or less the same as the K850i."

As well it will be around 40-50 pounds on the pay as you go as 1 of the SE rep. in UK stated that, I'm not sure about the pay as you go as am unfamiliar with it.

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Posted: 2008-07-31 11:01
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On 2008-07-31 07:05:26, mario2004 wrote:
People,there is absolutely no confirmation whatsoever of se, or sony for that matter, manufacturing a 8mp camera module for a cellphone ! ! ! Both my emails to sony got negative answers ! Please,if anyone here has any serious prove of such module,post it here. I am not only into cellphones but miniature cameras too. I visit camera/surveliance forums and yes I have plenty confirmation regarding the Samsung 'hitech' 8mp 'micro' modul, but none about sony/se Does it use a cmos or ccd sensor?What is the pixel size? What is the overall size? etc etc.


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