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JK
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Brix why are so negative about voda live..?? youv never even used it!!
im not praising it either, its there and i use it, but without complaining or downing it!
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brix25
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@786KBR: I don't think my comment was negative maybe I don't like the idea of network operated portals.... MTNloaded comes to mind, I admitt VodafoneLive will offer better content but still at ridiculous prices. South African users will basically be paying Vodafone to recoup the massive price they paid in the late 90s for 3G licences. That's my two cents, if it offends then I sincereley apologise.
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Tahir Ally
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@brix .You dont know what you talking about.Vodafone Live customers in SA is not paying for Vodafones loses.Vodacom is only paying R9million a year for 3G licence.The 3G licence is the same cost as GSM.European networks paid billions of EURO. Stuff on Vodafone live SA is cheaper than any content provider in Africa.You never used Vodafone live so you dont what its like.Our portal in SA is still new and alot of stuff that other Vodafone countries have we dont have.But content on Vodafone live SA is being upgraded everytime.
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brix25
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Vodafone owns 35% of Vodacom...money made in SA goes towards the bottom line in the UK. I won't comment on prices but it should be ridiculous.
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Tahir Ally
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@Brix I will give you another comparison.Vodacom launch BlackBerry before MTN but Vodacom is still cheaper than MTN.MTN chargers the there BB clients R368pm and give no free min and they only give free unlimited email usage for 3 months after this they rip you.Vodacom chargers you R349pm gives 100 anytime minutes and unlimited email usage......Vodacom said when they launched 3G.We will not be beaten on data or 3G.As i just pointed out to you now how expensive is MTN on data do you still think MTN will be cheaper and better than Vodacom on 3G.I dont think so.Vodacom is now breaking records in rolling out 3G.Vodacom is activating atleast 15 3G base station a day.The 3G investment Vodacom does in 6 months is what some networks are doing in a year.......Wake up man
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brix25
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@Tahir: Did you read my post before grabbing the stylus? I never mentioned 3G rollout or Blackberries. And yes, I'm wide awake.
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Tahir Ally
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@ Brix The comparison i did about blackberry and 3g was to show you a point that Vodafone live SA users were not paying for Vodafones losses.What i did point out is how expensive MTN is on blackberry and i said Vodacom will not be beaten on data and are breaking records in rolling out 3g.The investment Vodacom does in 6months on 3g is what some networks do in a year ......So why wait for Mtn to launch 3g.They will never beat Vodacom.Vodacom will have 3g almost everywhere by the end of this year.Vodacom did start 6 months ahead in 3g.Vodacom started business 1 month before MTN and Vodacom is twice the size of MTN......Vodacom does not run at a loss and do not over charge customers to cover Vodafones loss.All prices in the telecommunication business have to be ICASA approved.Or by the way MTN will only get the Z800 when the exclusivity ends with Vodafone for V800.The only Sericsson 3G phone MTN will have is the dated z1010
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brix25
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@Tahir: Do you hate Cell C as well?
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Tahir Ally
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@Brix i am not saying.I hate MTN and CellC.You must watch what you say and when you say it especialy if its not FACTS.....Since you mention Cell C i am going to tell you something now.FACT Cell C had 3Million customers last year.As of now they only have 2.2million customers.Cell C can not retain customers.They have the highest churn rate in SA or world.Thats why they are doing all these CHEAP deals because they are loosing customers and no one wants to do business with them because of BAD SERVICE.Ask any Vodacom dealer how was business before and after Cell C launched.They will tell you WE ARE BUSIER NOW THAN BEFORE CELL C CAME......As for MTN they are not growing as fast as Vodacom.At 1 time i thought Cell C will overtake MTN but not anymore.Cell C is running at a loss.They cut 90 jobs,did not grow there distribution since launch and recently took R5billion of investers money to pay debts,Cut there franchise fees from R400 000 to R185 000..
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Tahir Ally
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@Brix MTN SLASHED THERE DATA RATES BUT NEVER ADVERTISED IT BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE AN EDGE/GPRS/3G modem yet.This shows you how slow they are EVERYWHERE YOU GO......Vodacom will always lead.Yebo Gogo
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Tahir Ally
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YELLO we know were are SLOW EVERYWHERE YOU GO.We are sorry.Please be patience
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brix25
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LOL... I don't think they pay you enough. Talking of slow GPRS has been terribly slow these last couple of days.
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Tahir Ally
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@ Brix i dont think you caught up the pun read my previous post carefully.Vodacom GPRS is slow because more and more people are going on GPRS + Blackberry uses GPRS and i think Blackberry customers are making our GPRS connection slow.And some places where there is no 3G net have alot of customers that uses the Vodafone mobile connect card.Plus some customers got data bundles and did not use up all bundles will lose what ever they dont use up before month end......I always said if you want fast GPRS speeds use it after midnight.....
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brix25
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Your previous post was a dig at MTN's new marketing campaign.
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Tahir Ally
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@ Brix coming back to GPRS.FACT MTN only has about 5 roaming partners for GPRS where as Vodacom has 33.This is another reason why people choose Vodacom.Imagine buying a Blacberry or a 3g device from them and you can only use them on those 5 net....Thats sux.....I said it before and i am going to say it again Vodacom will not be beaten on DATA.MTN IS SLOW EVERYWHERE YOU GO
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Posted: 2005-04-29 15:26
