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-XYZ
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On 2013-09-12 15:57:18, DACHA wrote:
On 2013-09-12 15:47:54, -XYZ wrote:
Why send the shitty displays to the reviewers. That is PR suicide.
It is a display lottery. Some are excellent and some are average. XperiaJunkie has a phone with the very good display and Ambroos has one with the average display. The average display is still better than the Z/ZL display.
The display on my ZL has poor viewing angles but almost every time I show a picture to someone they compliment on the display quality. 99% of people do not care about viewing angles.
I get that, but why isn't Sony ensuring that the press and reviewers get the absolute best display. Its the first thing you see, and so it can heavily colour how you react to the rest of the phone. Set off on the wrong foot (i.e with a bad screen) and the reviewer will inherently not like it much, even if the rest is amazing. | |
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McKinley
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On 2013-09-12 15:22:08, Luca-S wrote:
Oh god!
How i hate dirty lenses  !
I'm second to that!
@XperiaJunkie
Always keep the lens clean.
Have I got this right?
In 8MP mode, you can play with all the settings, whereas in full resolution, you only get to use your phone in auto mode?
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There have been 3 reviews out yet. Out of those 3 we can forget about the crappy CNET review since they are jokers anyway. The rest of the 2 reviews have no complaints with the screen and are full of praise.
So let's see how it unfolds, so far things are very positive 
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XperiaJunkie
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On 2013-09-12 16:12:15, McKinley wrote:
On 2013-09-12 15:22:08, Luca-S wrote:
Oh god!
How i hate dirty lenses !
I'm second to that!
@XperiaJunkie
Always keep the lens clean.
Have I got this right?
In 8MP mode, you can play with all the settings, whereas in full resolution, you only get to use your phone in auto mode?
First of all sorry about the dirty lens and yes you are right about the full manual controls in 8MP mode only.The only settings you get in 20MP is the white balance, flash, timer that sort of thing. 
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randomuser
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Manual controls only in 8 MP mode?   
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
northmonkey
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That's shocking!!! NO NO NO, This will put people off buying it. |
-XYZ
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I thought it was the other way around.
Every other preview in existence mentioned full control is on 20.7MPx, and Superior Auto with 8MPx.... |
randomuser
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Yeah that's what I thought too |
reeflotz
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It's the other way around, Xell already mentioned it when he got to try the Z1, auto mode you're limited to 8mp, while in manual mode you can shoot full 20mp resolution.
It does not make sense if auto mode is 20mp then the manual mode is only limited to 8mp.
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XperiaJunkie
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I have just double checked and there is no full manual controls in 20MP but I think the Xperia Z1 I have isn't the finished product so it could be the final retail versions will has this function fingers crossed.
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Just to confirm no one has crossed wires here you can shoot at 20MP in manual mode but your options for manual controls are very limited when compared to 8MP as in 8 MP mode you get to chose the scene, set the white balance, HDR on/off, ISO upto 3200, face and smile detection.
in 20MP mode you get white balance, HDR, on/off iso upto 800, face and smile detection but no scene selection.
Hope this clears a few thing up for you guys.
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moogoo
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interesting!
though, if you're in full manual and can control WB, HDR, ISO, EV and flash, do you really need to be able to select a scene? It kind of defeats the purpose of full manual doesn't it?
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McKinley
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Once again, I'm happy with just 8Mp as long as I can play with manual settings.
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miromiromi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]_embedded&v=G8bK_lKcKko#t=2645
somebody from the philippines got a unit from malaysia. the guy has only good things to say about it. a more thorough review will be in the next episode.
jump to 40 minutes to immediately go to the xperia z1 discussion.
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razec
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On 2013-09-12 17:00:54, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Just to confirm no one has crossed wires here you can shoot at 20MP in manual mode but your options for manual controls are very limited when compared to 8MP as in 8 MP mode you get to chose the scene, set the white balance, HDR on/off, ISO upto 3200, face and smile detection.
in 20MP mode you get white balance, HDR, on/off iso upto 800, face and smile detection but no scene selection.
Hope this clears a few thing up for you guys.
ISO800 makes sense to me, since Z1's sensor can't do miracles and shoot usable pictures on anything higher than that setting anyway.
And PS: Z1's manual mode isn't really manual, manual mode on digital cameras lets you set Aperture, Shutter speed, ISO and manually calibrate WB, save for the flash EV/sync which is useless on an LED flash equipped device anyway. face detection, HDR just doesn't belong there. I'd rather say Z1's "manual" mode is more like a Program mode on enthusiast cameras/DSLRs
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